newbie to TS 2003 and ts roaming profile please help...

newbie to TS 2003 and ts roaming profile please help...

Post by R29rdSAzMT » Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:49:00


Hello all:

At my company we have 2 individual win 2k term servers.

I want to seup a new 2003 term farm but with ts roaming profiles. This farm
would replace the 2 win 2k servers..

Those 2 servers were intended for a handfull of users and frankly more of
our workers are enjoying working remotly at their homes or on the road.

The servers are used for mainly office 2003 and a very small non resource
demading visual fox pro program..

In the past the previous director recalled stories about the hell he had
when one of the servers hd died. He had no backup and the profiles were
local

Plus the remote users had a rdp file where some clients were pointed to one
server and the rest to another
Yikes.. this is another reason why I want to attempt the term svr farm with
NLB.. Budget is a problem but I got enough for 2 powerfull servers but
nothing else as stated by the owner
I intend to setup a separate OU and place the term servers there. then I can
apply any GPs.
I am testing a simple barebone win 2k3 server with nothing else on it just
to adapt myself with ts roaming profiles
I used the Gp option for ts roaming profile shared paths and all works fine
I am also looking at oopback processing" as shown on Vera Noest website
s_policiesstill clouded about what this policy does if anyone can
elaborate I will be very thankfull
However logon for a user set for ts roaming takes a little while and so does
logoffall is well in the event viewer though...

Again this server is just a test machine it has an ata ide mirror hard drive
with a 2Ghz processor and 2GB ram
A user without roaming profile takes a few seconds to login..

What can I do to control the file sycing when it comes to ts roaming
profilesI am thinking about using the GP xclude directories in roaming
profile
All our users have their my docs redirectedI am thinking of finding some
way of blocking the users from saving anything on their desktop folder it
selfhus less stuf to save upon log off and less to load upon next logon..

Any ideas.. the help speed up this process??

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Goku 316
 
 
 

newbie to TS 2003 and ts roaming profile please help...

Post by Vera Noest » Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:56:37

oopback processing of a GPO applied to a TS means that not only
the computer settings, but also the user settings in the TS policy
are applied to all users connecting to the TS, instead of the user
settings in the GPO which applies to the user account (which would
be the normal behaviour of policies).

So you can lock down the TS as much as you want without
simultaneously locking down the users' workstations.

About speeding up your logons:
you will always see a time difference when you compare local
profiles with roaming profiles. So how long is "it takes a little
while"?

The only thing you can do (when there are no unload errors in the
EventLog) is make the profile as small as possible. Redirect as
much as possible (My Documents, Application Data). Make sure that
the users have a home directory which is separate from their
profile.
Have a look at the Internet Explorer settings as well. Make sure
that Temporary Internet files are deleted each time IE closes, and
limit the amount of disk space for them. By default, they are
already excluded from roaming with the profile.

Yes, it's a good idea to redirect all users to a custom desktop,
which they don't have write access to. Educate your users that user
documents always must be saved in their home directory.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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=?Utf-8?B?R29rdSAzMTY=?= < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote on 10 feb
2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> > > Yikes.. this is another reason why I want to attempt the term> > svr farm with NLB.. Budget is a problem but I got enough for 2> > powerfull servers but nothing else as stated by the owner>
>>
> I intend to setup a separate OU and place the term server>
> there. then I can apply any GPs>
> I am testing a simple barebone win 2k3 server with nothing els>
> on it just to adapt myself with ts roaming profilesgt; > I used the Gp option for ts roaming profile shared paths and a>l
> works finegt; >>
> I am also looking at oopback processing" as shown on V>ra
> Noest website s_policiesstill clouded about >hat
> this policy does if anyone can elaborate I will be >ery
> thankful>gt;
>
> However logon for a user set for ts roaming takes a little >hile
> and so does logoffall is well in the event viewer tho>gh.>.
>
> Again this server is just a test machine it has an a>a ide
> mirror hard drive with a 2Ghz processor and 2GB>ram>€ >
> A user without roaming profile takes a few seconds to >ogi>..
>
> What can I do to control the file sycing when it come> to ts
> roaming profilesI am thinking about using the GP >Exclude
> directories in roaming p>ofi>e >
> All our users have their my docs redirectedI am t>inking of
> finding some way of blocking the users from saving a>ything on
> their desktop folder it selfhus less stuf to sav> upon log
> off and less to load upon nex> lo>on..
>
> Any ideas.. the help speed up this process??

 
 
 

newbie to TS 2003 and ts roaming profile please help...

Post by R29rdSAzMT » Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:40:00

Vera:
The usual steps as commented on your website From
http://www.yqcomputer.com/

I have added some extra addons to the GPO:

Apart from the path and drive mapping for the TS roaming profile I also
configured:

COMPUTER
System\User Profile

Do not check for user ownership of Roaming Profile Folders
Delete cached copies of roaming profiles
Add the Administrators security group to roaming user profiles

USER:
Redirected the Desktop and Start menu to the C drive of the TS server.
Very simple for both folder just a few icons that all..

Network\Offline Files:
Do not automatically make redirected folders available offline

System\User Profile:
Exclude directories in roaming profile: Recent;UserData;Local Settings;Cookies

I began testing just the roaming profile setup and I got many error 1525
Source: Userenv. So I ran net share sharename /cache:none on the server
hosting the profiles. And this resolve this issue.
The profile size of all 10 tested users were 512Kb each in size but yet it
took close to 30 seconds to complete logon.
Both servers are on the same gigabit switch both at Giga speed.
My last hope is the hotfix associated with this KB:899409 (the 20 sec delay).
This will be done as soon as I contact Microsoft in the morning.
I got a lot of info any amateur like myself would need for TS from your
website.
Many Thanks
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Goku 316
 
 
 

newbie to TS 2003 and ts roaming profile please help...

Post by Vera Noest » Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:28:45

OK, let us know if you notice any difference after applying the
hotfix.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://www.yqcomputer.com/
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=?Utf-8?B?R29rdSAzMTY=?= < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote on 12 feb
2007:

> Many Thanks
 
 
 

newbie to TS 2003 and ts roaming profile please help...

Post by R29rdSAzMT » Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:10:05

Vera sorry for the late reply had some family matters to attend to...

finally applied the hot fix but no good..

did the user env logging and found the iisue to be with userinit.exe taking
10 seconds to process..

doing more research will keep you posted...
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Goku 316