Help - need mail server

Help - need mail server

Post by Programme » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:59:15


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Help!

I'm running Windows Server 2K3 Web edition and am looking for a good free mail server + free webmail solution.

SquirrelMail is really nice for webmail, but it requires my mail server to support IMAP, which excludes a few of the freebies. If I stick with SquirrelMail, which I'd like to do, then I need a mail server that fits the following:

- [required] Runs on windows.
- [required] free
- [required] SMTP
- [required] IMAP (rules out MailEnable - must upgrade to get this)
- [required] *FULL* support for multiple domains (this rules out MailEnable)
- [required] Supports aliases
- [required (unless there's an add-on to provide this)] Supports lists
- Not required, but would be nice: List could have one list of authorized addresses that can post to it and a seperate list for distribution... for example, I'd like to post to a list from home address and from my work address but receive the list only on my home address. I'm currently doing this with majordomo on a linux box, but I won't be on that box soon.
- Not absolutely required, but would be nice if it were a true Windows service.
- Not absolutely required, but an API to be able to programmatically add/edit/delete accounts, lists, aliases, domains, etc...

By "full" support for multiple domains, I mean I need something like this:
- Create mail box XXXX@XXXXX.COM .
- Create mail box XXXX@XXXXX.COM .
- domain3.com has no mailbox of user1.
- XXXX@XXXXX.COM and XXXX@XXXXX.COM are different mailboxes with different passwords for different users.

I've tried the following servers:
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1. IIS mail server (doesn't have full support for multiple domains)
2. MailEnable (doesn't have full support for multiple domains and free version doesn't have IMAP)
3. XMail - seems to have it all, but IMAP runs on port 6017 and for the life of me, I can't find out how to change it to port 143.
4. Mercury/32 - Can't remember the exact problem here, but it didn't support at least one of my requirements above (it was either lacking full support for domains or lacking IMAP).

I've lost count of how many hours I've been digging through newsgroups, online help, downloaded help files, config files, and such looking for recommendations and configuration settings for mail servers. I've pretty much run out of options at the moment.

On the other hand, if anyone knows how to make XMail for Windows run IMAP on port 143 instead of port 6017, I'd be very grateful! :)

Thanks!
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I'm running Windows Server 2K3 Web edition and am looking for
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<DIV><FONT size=2>SquirrelMail is really nice for webmail, but it requires my
mail server to support IMAP, which excludes a few of the freebies. 
If I stick with SquirrelMail, which I'd like to do, then I need a mail
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Help - need mail server

Post by Programme » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:06:21

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Still looking for XMail IMAP port 143 activation or another mailserver that fits the requirements listed below in my prior post.

Correction to my port 6017 statement: I think port 6017 is the admin port for XMail, not IMAP running on 6017.

How do I test if IMAP is running on port 143 with XMail? The only tests I know are:

1. Try to log in with SquirrelMail (which gives me an IMAP error).
2. Telnet localhost 143 - and I cannot establish a connection.

Thanks again.
"Programmer" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
Help!

I'm running Windows Server 2K3 Web edition and am looking for a good free mail server + free webmail solution.

SquirrelMail is really nice for webmail, but it requires my mail server to support IMAP, which excludes a few of the freebies. If I stick with SquirrelMail, which I'd like to do, then I need a mail server that fits the following:

- [required] Runs on windows.
- [required] free
- [required] SMTP
- [required] IMAP (rules out MailEnable - must upgrade to get this)
- [required] *FULL* support for multiple domains (this rules out MailEnable)
- [required] Supports aliases
- [required (unless there's an add-on to provide this)] Supports lists
- Not required, but would be nice: List could have one list of authorized addresses that can post to it and a seperate list for distribution... for example, I'd like to post to a list from home address and from my work address but receive the list only on my home address. I'm currently doing this with majordomo on a linux box, but I won't be on that box soon.
- Not absolutely required, but would be nice if it were a true Windows service.
- Not absolutely required, but an API to be able to programmatically add/edit/delete accounts, lists, aliases, domains, etc...

By "full" support for multiple domains, I mean I need something like this:
- Create mail box XXXX@XXXXX.COM .
- Create mail box XXXX@XXXXX.COM .
- domain3.com has no mailbox of user1.
- XXXX@XXXXX.COM and XXXX@XXXXX.COM are different mailboxes with different passwords for different users.

I've tried the following servers:
--------------------------------------------
1. IIS mail server (doesn't have full support for multiple domains)
2. MailEnable (doesn't have full support for multiple domains and free version doesn't have IMAP)
3. XMail - seems to have it all, but IMAP runs on port 6017 and for the life of me, I can't find out how to change it to port 143.
4. Mercury/32 - Can't remember the exact problem here, but it didn't support at least one of my requirements above (it was either lacking full support for domains or lacking IMAP).

I've lost count of how many hours I've been digging through newsgroups, online help, downloaded help files, config files, and such looking for recommendations and configuration settings for mail servers. I've pretty much run out of options at the moment.

On the other hand, if anyone knows how to make XMail for Windows run IMAP on port 143 instead of port 6017, I'd be very grateful! :)

Thanks!
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Help - need mail server

Post by Terry Aust » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:14:09

"Programmer" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in


Current version has IMAP. It doesn't directly support true virtual domains,
but it can do so with aliases. The problem with true multiple domains, as
you define it, is that the POP3 server *must* maintain a separate IP
address for each domain, because the POP3 RFC does not include any way for
the server to tell XXXX@XXXXX.COM from XXXX@XXXXX.COM - the user name
sent in a POP3 transaction is user name *only*, without domain info.

The way to support multiple domains in Mercury is with aliases -
XXXX@XXXXX.COM points to local account user1, and XXXX@XXXXX.COM points
to local account user2. This has always been a common way of handling
virtual domains. The other is to have the POP3 server support multiple IP
addresses. and I do not know of any free packages for Windows that will do
that.

It will work with Squirrelmail, and this is commonly done. The Mercury
mailing list is a good place for advice if you have trouble.

It supports lists, including moderated lists.

It is possible to do scripting to update users, but I don't know of
anything that does this that is already available. It's a bit tricky to get
Mercury to reload the list of local accounts, but not all that tricky.

It does not run natively as a service, but can be run that way in any of
several ways, including svrany and firedeamon. Advice can be gotten on the
Mercury mailing list.

--
Terry Austin
XXXX@XXXXX.COM
I love children. They taste like chicken.
http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

Help - need mail server

Post by Programme » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:06:45

I just tried that. Here are the problems I found:

Configured as:
- user1 = mailbox
- XXXX@XXXXX.COM = alias for user1
- user2 = mailbox
- XXXX@XXXXX.COM = alias for user2

Problems:
- Actual user must be aware of the fact their mailbox name is different than
their e-mail address.
- User must login with mailbox name and not e-mail address.

I've been using something on a cobolt linux server (don't know what server
it was... SendMail?) where the box has only one IP address but is hosting
about 40 domains... each of which have their own, unique e-mail address
space. I own many of the domains on that box and each account gets an admin
account that has a different password on each.

Thanks




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