Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by Anita Basa » Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:17:55


Why does Eudora 6.1.2 insist on using the wrong user name?

I am a Eudora newbie; but I have been using the POP3 servers
for a dozen years; so, I'm particularly frustrated with what should
be a quick setup of Eudora 6.1.2 on WinXP due to the login
problem summarized below:

Tools=>Options=>Getting Started
Mail Server (Incoming) = pop.domain.com
Login Name = XXXX@XXXXX.COM

Instead of using that Login Name, Eudora keeps trying (incorrectly):
USER = XXXX@XXXXX.COM @pop.domain.com
This user doesn't exist.
Neither does XXXX@XXXXX.COM

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 insist on using the wrong user name?
What did I do wrong?
What can I do to get Eudora to use the correct user name?

Here are more details (to help you help me):
1. I just now downloaded & installed Eudora 6.1.2 on WinXP SP2.
2. I tested my POP3 settings via the simplest test known to man:
Start => Run => cmd
c:\> telnet pop.domain.com pop3
+OK hello from popgate(2.27.5)
USER XXXX@XXXXX.COM
+OK password required.
PASS snafu
+OK maildrop ready, 30 messages (304996 octets) (309410
2147483648)
3. That simple test above proves the account information beyond a doubt.
Note: I obfuscated the login/password/domain obviously; but the detail
is correct.
4. Yet, Eudora 6.1.2 does not use the correct information above.
5. Instead, Eudora appears to use as a login XXXX@XXXXX.COM @pop.domain.com
- Start Eudora 6.1.2
- File => Check Mail
- This pops up the "Enter Password" form which asks:
"Please enter the current password for
XXXX@XXXXX.COM @pop.domain.com
Note: There is NO user of that login.
I didn't tell Eudora to use that login.
I told Eudora to use XXXX@XXXXX.COM as the login.
- Checking Connecting to the Mail Server...
- < *** >,Connectiong to the Mail Server...,(10:38:34 PM]
Could not connect to "pop.domain.com"
Cause: connection timed out (10060)
6. This is incorrect as can be proved by the simplest test possible:
c:\> telnet pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com pop3
+OK hello from popgate(2.27.5)
USER XXXX@XXXXX.COM @pop.domain.com
+OK password required.
PASS snafu
-ERR invalid user/password

Since I *know* my user login is XXXX@XXXXX.COM
and I *know* my password is "snafu";

I tried this test both with and without "Allow Authentication"
checked (I'm not sure what that does, but it doesn't
seem to have any effect on the user name problem).

What do I need to do to get Eudora to respect that information?
 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by Jennifer P » Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:33:26


Eudora isn't a real Internet mail tool (MUA).
I've been told that Eudora was developed by Qualcomm as
an IN-HOUSE (intranet) tool only.
Therefore, Eudora can't work well on the Internet.

Eudora expects the user name to be a valid login on the domain.
Eudora can't handle the fact that your user name has a domain
attached to it and only that user@domain is valid on the
pop server. This is normal on the Internet; but not normal
on corporate accounts (which Eudora was built for).

Put another way, if you had a simple corporate account
(instead of a normal Internet account), then, if your user
name were "foo" on that corporate domain, you'd be fine
with Eudora. But, Eudora is brain dead from the perspective
of understanding normal Internet accounts. It's otherwise
a great mail tool (but for in-house use only).

I think there's nothing you can do (other than to use a real
mail program designed for the Internet) and not for corporate
accounts. There's nothing wrong with Eudora. It just (doesn't)
work that way.

 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by Frankenste » Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:48:22


This is just absurd.

--
Frankenstein
 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by Frankenste » Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:50:58


Try making the mail server pop.domain.net, or the login name XXXX@XXXXX.COM .
In other words, stick with either .net or .com for both.

--
Frankenstein
 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by daniel1 » Mon, 01 Nov 2004 18:39:41

In article <ns%gd.25314$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, XXXX@XXXXX.COM says...


Just use foo as the User not XXXX@XXXXX.COM
--
Over and Out
Daniel Jacobson
 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by Anita Basa » Tue, 02 Nov 2004 01:00:12


I tried that.
- The user name is XXXX@XXXXX.COM
- The POP3 server is "pop.domain.com"

When I enter "foo" as the user name, Eudora insists
on renaming the user name to:
- XXXX@XXXXX.COM
which doesn't exist & therefore fails to log in.

I can easily test that with telnet via:
- telnet pop.domain.com pop3
- USER XXXX@XXXXX.COM
- PASS snafu
Where it gives an error (because the login is
actually XXXX@XXXXX.COM , not XXXX@XXXXX.COM .

Why does Eudora insist on CHANGING my login name?
How can I get Eudora to use a login name of " XXXX@XXXXX.COM "?
 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by K. Shere » Tue, 02 Nov 2004 01:05:47


Well, if Eudora can handle the Internet, I stand corrected.
There must (then) be a way for a login to be what he needs.

Maybe the user can just put quotes around his user name XXXX@XXXXX.COM and
Eudora will use *that* as his user name (which is all he's trying to do)
instead of XXXX@XXXXX.COM @pop.domain.com (which is *not* what he's trying
to do).

Or, maybe backquotes as in a Eudora user name of foo\@domain\.net

If Eudora can handle normal Internet accounts, it *must* have a way of
handling this login information (which is pretty standard out there).
 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by Anita Basa » Tue, 02 Nov 2004 01:13:09

> I can easily test that with telnet via:

I should note I also tried to see of 'foo' was a login on pop.domain.com
and it is not (easily tested with):
c:\> telnet pop.domain.com pop3
USER foo
PASS snafu
Which also causes an unrecognized login/password error.

The correct login is XXXX@XXXXX.COM on the pop3 server pop.domain.com.
This works in telnet but not in Eudora.
c:\> telnet pop.domain.com pop3
USER XXXX@XXXXX.COM
PASS snafu

Since I know this login/password to be correct, what do I need to do to get
Eudora 6.1.2 to respect that information?
 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by daniel1 » Tue, 02 Nov 2004 01:47:42

In article <g_7hd.1453$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, XXXX@XXXXX.COM says...




Try:
Then the problem is most likely with 2 @ signs in the Name / Address.

If you have 2 @ signs in the address it may not work correctly,
try replacing the first @ sign with a percent sign (%) or a colon (:).
Enter foo%pop.domain.com
--
Over and Out
Daniel Jacobson
 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by Anita Basa » Tue, 02 Nov 2004 02:38:21


Drummelbummer!
c:\> telnet pop.domain.com 110
+OK hello from popgate(2.27.5)
USER foo% XXXX@XXXXX.COM
+OK password required.
PASS snafu
-ERR invalid user/password
It was a good try but didn't work for me.

To help you help me, here is more information:
- The real pop server (not obfuscated) is "pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com".
- The login (only the user name is obfuscated) is " XXXX@XXXXX.COM ".
- These ISP settings are at http://www.yqcomputer.com/

The ISP email setup tutorial only supports Eudora 4.x and 5.x :
- http://www.yqcomputer.com/

I called the free ISP support (of course); they told me they don't support
Eudora 6.x. They said to use Outlook, Outlook Express, or Netscape instead.
Or, use an older version of Eudora (why would that even matter)?

The wierd thing is that they do seem to support the older Eudoras
(specifically Eudora 4.3 and Eudora 5) but they refuse to support
the newer Eudora (Eudora 6.1.2 specifically in my case).

So, I'm (still) asking Eudora experts for help.

Given that this works (login/password obfuscated):
c:\> telnet pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com 110
> USER XXXX@XXXXX.COM
> PASS snafu

And, given that this does NOT work:
> USER foo
> USER XXXX@XXXXX.COM @pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com
> USER XXXX@XXXXX.COM @pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com

Is anyone using SBC Yahoo with Eudora 6.1.2 on WinXP SP2?
What settings do you use in Eudora 6.1.2 so as to retrieve email?
 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by Peter H. G » Tue, 02 Nov 2004 03:37:22

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 06:17:55 GMT, "Anita Basappa"



I think this is your entire problem.

Eudora is not prepared for you to have a login name at a differend
domain than your mail server's address. Obviously, domain.com and
domain.net are two different places.

If you had a mail server that could handle the different domain names,
continue using it. Eudore doesn't do that.
 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by Ann » Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:31:12

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:37:22 -0500, Peter H. Granzeau




It shouldn't matter. The server will know the login name to collect
mail and that's surely all that matters.

I have a login of XXXX@XXXXX.COM and a server name of
pop.tiscali.co.uk and it works fine.

Unless I'm not understanding you that is.

Ann
 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by Rick » Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:54:52


They are essentially the same. Use what they say to do. If they ask,
tell 'em you have 5.x

Rick

--
My wild oats have turned to
shredded wheat.
 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by Richar » Tue, 02 Nov 2004 15:07:04

t can be done - sort of.... I had this same issue.

I gave up trying to use the "Dominant" personality as it insisted on
appending the pop server giving two @ or all the same problems.

I solve it by disabling the Dominant personality by removing the check mark
to "Check Mail". Then I set up secondary personalities for each mail
account. It works fine.

Good luck,
Richard


"Anita Basappa" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message
news:ns%gd.25314$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...


 
 
 

Why does Eudora 6.1.2 CHANGE correct user login information into incorrect logins?

Post by Remove dot » Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:53:34


mark

If that doesn't do it for you for some reason, you might could also set up a
HOSTS file entry for the pop server as the "right" .net name:

66.163.171.139 sbcglobal.net

and then tell Eudora that the pop server is sbcglobal.net and your login is
just foo. Then it would happily append the @sbcglobal.net, and POPping
email would work (until the IP changes for that host, of course).

HOSTS is in /windows/system32/drivers/etc/ on modern systems.

HTH

...phsiii