openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

Post by ml2ms » Sat, 08 Sep 2007 07:05:09

I never made a secret out of the fact, that I've been a SUSE Linux fan
since the 6.1 release. But because of the Microvell deal, I jumped ship
a couple of months ago. However I felt I had to give the latest openSUSE
10.3 Beta a fair chance.

My conclusion however is: its a horror!

Every time you want to install (even a single) package using YaST2, the
entire package database is rebuild. On my machine this takes about 20
minutes :-(

This lame system was introduced in 10.2 and openSUSE promised to make
addition of repositories much more easy, with the Methapackage system,
which I found very useful.

However in the end, openSUSE finally didn't solve the problems as promised.

After fooling around for a day with openSUSE 10.3 I installed Kubuntu
again, without a pain.

What most freaked me out was the fact that MONO was installed (without
even questioning). I don't want MONO, because its an implementation of
the Microsoft .NET framework. I simply don't want that sort of *** on
my box, but openSUSE simply left me no choice.

So here we have it: If you've been searching for Microsoft Linux, here
it is, it's called SUSE / openSUSE.

I'm sorry, it really freaks me out, because this is what became of this
once so great distribution from the land of Bavaria :`-(

If you value your (software) freedon, simply SUSE void()

|_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin

openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

Post by Peter S8O2 » Sat, 08 Sep 2007 07:16:49

Strange. I have installed it on a test system. Nothing of that kind happens
here. It behaves totally normal. And runs very stable considering it is a
beta system

< snip >
Klingon function calls do not have 'parameters' -
they have 'arguments' - and they ALWAYS WIN THEM.


openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

Post by ml2ms » Sat, 08 Sep 2007 07:39:42


Now you've made me curious, I'm going to give it another try, since I
was really disappointed this time.

If you don't have these problems, I'm probably doing something very wrong.

For example I downloaded a RPM package and installed it with YaST2,
which actually took 20 minutes, because the entire RPM database was
rebuild every time, over and over again.

Well at least 10.3 has something cool: it's *green* again, makes me feel
like home :-)

|_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin

openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

Post by Roy Schest » Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:14:03

____/ ml2mst on Thursday 06 September 2007 23:39 : \____

OpenSUSE 10.3 is very decent and probably the best desktop Linux distribution
out there. Separating this from Novell's mess...

~~ Best of wishes

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openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

Post by birr » Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:26:13

You can turn off refresh on your repositories, the reason it's on by default
is that it is a beta, and changes do apply all the time, and you can get
broken depends if you don't refresh often.

I will not use MONO either, but I guess I let it install on my 10.3 install,
but normally I do rpm -e on all mono, and software the can't run without it.
(bad, since I like beagle, why must that use mono? )

Anyway, the machine I use for daily work (opensuse 10.2( does not have mono
installed, and works fine. I expect I can do the same with 10.3, or I move
to something else.


openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

Post by BearItAl » Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:10:31

I wish you had given mono a chance, not the net side, but the commandline
side of it, you might have been quite impressed as I was.

It isn't eally .NET either, of cause it is aiming in the same direction, and
with a bit of luck MS will share their side so that web developers can use
a mono host or a .NET host for their applications. (yes, sorry, MS share,
bit of a contradiction).

openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

Post by Punjab The » Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:43:02

You have the option of deselecting refresh for each repository.

openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

Post by ml2ms » Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:23:31

Goodbye Gary, have fun in your natural habitat...


|_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin

openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

Post by ml2ms » Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:32:19

Your handle makes you very suspicious. However, you are using
Thunderbird on X11, meaning you're not a troll after all.

Anyway, deselecting refreshment of the repositories is not really an
option after the first boot, now is it?

Cheers and sorry for calling you a troll and even Gary Steward, who is
one of the most weirdest netk00ks ever ;-)

|_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin

openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

Post by Peter S8O2 » Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:56:19

Actually, that would be a false assumption.
It is easy to spoof headers, and several trolls have already done so
The only real indication of who is a troll and who is not is in the contents
of his posts, not in what he seemingly uses

< snip >
Your depth of comprehension may tend to make you lax in worldly ways.

openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

Post by ml2ms » Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:46:07

Peter Klmann schreef:

Oh, dear. this explains, my good friend, netk00k Hadron Quark, Jerk of
jerks and erwickser's use of Emacs.

How amusing, I'm having a ball :-)

|_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin