No User, you can's click install on a web site.

No User, you can's click install on a web site.

Post by tab » Thu, 26 Jan 2006 23:22:49

Want to go to a web site and just click to download and click to
install software.
That is Apple and Microsoft.

You have to WAIT to see if your distro gets you an installable version.
Sometimes, you can get an RPM, wait, no, you have the WRONG DISTRO.
Pre-made binaries? Maybe. If you are lucky.

No binary? You can compile. Wait, nope, you have the WRONG
DEPENDENCY!

Yes you lying linux Advocates. There are still boo koo dependency
errors.
Try upgrading Amorak on Suse. There are 3 dependency errors.
Don't forget to deny and put head back in sand. See no Evil, hear no
evil.

THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
You have to KNOW little secrets to make linux work. They
just can't make it easy. You you have to have a techie staff
available to you, like in the 70's. TWEAK TWEAK.

"You just have to do this or that Mr. User." :) "No Mr. User,
we can't make it easy. You can take a class or two, or three".

WELCOME TO USER HELL!!!!

 
 
 

No User, you can's click install on a web site.

Post by B Gruf » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:39:11


Oh indeedy - about 150,000 examples of absolutely gratis software out there
in the wild, just waiting for that click. So so easy, isn't it? D'ya
know, some of them don't even wait for the click - that's really user
friendly and effort saving, isn't it?

 
 
 

No User, you can's click install on a web site.

Post by Madhusudan » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 01:24:09


lol
 
 
 

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Post by Ray Ingle » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 01:28:09


Alien.


http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ;
-new-amaroK-SVN-klik.html

--
Sincerely,

Ray Ingles (313) 227-2317

"COBOL is here for the long run... [O]n the Starship Enterprise
make no mistake, the program that calculates their pay will be
written in COBOL..." - Jerome Jahnke
 
 
 

No User, you can's click install on a web site.

Post by Kelsey Bja » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 02:04:27


And it's too damned much wasted effort. It's not "go to a website and
click to install software", but, rather, "go to a website, click to launch
the installer for a _single_ piece of software, which will then make you
wade, typically, through pages of wizards."

Compare that to "Open a GUI interface, search and select all the
applications you wish to install, click 'Install', confirm, then go for
coffee or get some work done until the install is done. My way, you can
install a hundred applications in the time it takes, your way, to install
just a few - and I can do the entire thing with less work involved than
you can, even for those few.

On the other hand, my way doesn't involve the risk of installing something
*** , evil and unwanted, such as spyware. That means your way wins,
right?
 
 
 

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Post by B'ichel » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:16:05


sigh, well thats true. I spent an eternity to upgrade my
slackware 8.0's
ogg vorbis packages to the latest ogg vorbis. It was one
time cunsuming, frustrating task. I got it done after
downloading several packages and accidently compiled them
in the wrong order!
Normally my life isn't that complex. but I wanted
to get the latest and newest and that mean't working on
doing it myself. That means of course taking the bumps and
scrapes that comes with diy projects.
BTW it did work out. after about 5 hours of trial
and error.

--

From the Desk of the Sysop of:
Planet Maca's Opus, a Free open BBS system. telnet://pinkrose.dhis.org
The New Cnews maintainer
B'ichela
 
 
 

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Post by George Ell » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:35:01


The Windows way assumes you've got a reliable source for software (ie
LimeWire, a friend, bootleg Chinatown CD, etc).
 
 
 

No User, you can's click install on a web site.

Post by thad0 » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:40:33


Tab's post is typical FUD/trolling... pick isolated or rare problems
and paint them as the norm while ignoring any similar problems that
competing systems have.

The truth is that the vast majority of applications can be installed
on a Linux system very easily using yast or up2date or some such
clicky program that will sort out the dependencies for you. A few
bleeding edge programs will require more effort... but that is
part of the open source way of doing things. It is the public
availability of this code that allows it to mature rapidly into the
highly polished software that installs with a click.

If a person really wants to avoid that scary peek at the open source
development world, they can always use Linspire with Click-n-Run or
some such. It is not hard to hide the pointy edges of a Linux distro
and smooth it into a user friendly (if less featureful) offering.

Thad
 
 
 

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Post by rex.ballar » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:19:16

B Gruff is right!
Tab, you are right!

Look at all those viruses, spyware, ActiveX controls and Malware that
just seem to show up with no intentional effort on your part at all.

You don't even have to open the e-mail, just preview it with outlook.

As for distribution dependency, that's one of the reasons why you want
to BUY a commercially supported distribution.

I have been able to force feed commercial software into commercial
distributions of Linux. In most cases, there is a patch or upgrade to
the originally published media that will have that application working
with the next commercial version.

There are times when there is DELIBERATE incompatibility, just like
Windows. You probably can't use DB2 6.3 with SUSE 10.0. You don't
want to put new wine into old wineskins.

Rex
 
 
 

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Post by Tim Smit » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:57:03

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,



It's also Linux:

< http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ;

(It seems to be somewhere between alpha and beta quality at the moment,
but it shows that the idea is feasible on Linux, although there are some
serious limits that need to be overcome).

--
--Tim Smith
 
 
 

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Post by tab » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:45:20

B Gruff has done a fine ass job FLAPPING.
Upgrade Amorak on Suse 10.

The problem, which LINUX NUTS, always fail
to address, is the installation issue, configuration issue,
and tweak factor.

When you get your flapping ass over to Suse 10.0,
and try it, let me know FLAPPER.
 
 
 

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Post by Ray Ingle » Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:25:21


Again I ask, what version of Amarok are you running? What version do
you want to be running? And what features of the newer version do you
want? (I assume you have a motivation for upgrading besides "Gee, it's
fun to upgrade!")

--
Sincerely,

Ray Ingles (313) 227-2317

"Microsoft products are easy to administer. Anyone can do it!
Even if you don't want them to..." - Jim Richardson, in COLA
 
 
 

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Post by JEDIDIA » Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:34:52


I avoid the "tweak factor" by avoiding server oriented
distributions for desktop use. In a similar fashion, I avoid
running AIX or VMS as a desktop OS.

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