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Questions, Questions, Questions -- Well, really only two

Post by cdstran » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 01:40:10


This newsgroup seemed distribution non-specific so here goes:

1. Many companies who want to use linux, want it for email and web
service. These systems don't need xwindows, and, in fact, as I
understand it, not installing it not only saves resources but reduces
security risk. Is there anywhere freely available a how-to install
various current distributions of linux using text only, and installing
mail, web and domain name service that is fairly easy for the
uninformed to follow? Especially helpful would be a debian install.

2. Does anyone know of an encyclopedia, preferrably text-based, for
installing on a linux using red-hat, kde and gnome?


Thanks,
 
 
 

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Post by T. Relye » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:23:33


I haven't done a Debian install in a long time, but for something like
Mandrake, I usually install X and at least KDE, so if I need a GUI it's
available. At the end of the install, it asks you if you want to start X on
boot...just select 'no.'


use Google.

Todd

 
 
 

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Post by Shawn Gran » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:30:46

geek
 
 
 

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Post by Nigel Felt » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:14:22


The largest encyclopedia available is the web based Wikipedia (over 2x as
many articles as britannica and currently increasing at a rate of 10,000
articles a month) at www.wikipedia.com - seems to be currently down
(they've been having hardware problems) but there are mirrors at
http://www.yqcomputer.com/
en2.wikipedia.org

You can also download a snapshot of the whole encyclopedia for running on a
local copy of MySQL at http://www.yqcomputer.com/
normal web browser at http://www.yqcomputer.com/
html is missing quite a few of the latest articles so you may be better off
downloading sql database from first download site and script from second
and use these to create a current html version.

The offline html version of this encyclopedia can be burnt to a DVD (too
large for CD) and read without installing on any web browser that supports
javascript (needed for searching, non-javascript browsers need to manually
look through directories for articles but still view them).

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Post by Jim Richar » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:27:15

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Debian, Slackware, and Redhat all allow non-X installs. Dunno about
Mandrake, and I am pretty sure that SUSE does.

Additionally, Gentoo, Sorcerer, and Sourcemage (if it's still extant)
LFS and Rock Linux. In fact, damn near all of them. The only ones I can
think of offhand that *don't* are Lindows and Lycoris, and I could be
wrong there.



google.

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Post by Jim Richar » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:47:32

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I didn't realise I could d/l the database for wikipedia. Thanks for the
info.

Now, I wonder if I can figure out a way to sync it say, once a day?

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Post by paul cook » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 07:47:28


easy peasy... but a daily pull would be a waste of bandwidth cos they don't
dump the database that often...

a simple fortnightly overnight cron job with a script driving wget and the
extraction program to put them where you need them. The files names and
directories they use follow a pattern. The back end of each file is always

"_cur_table.sql.bz2"

and all the directories follow this pattern:
http://www.yqcomputer.com/ */YYYYMMDD_cur_table.sql.bz2
^
^
(2 to 10 characters)

look up man wget and the -A "accept list" and -R "reject list" options
when doing a recursive dump of the directories under the main directory:

" http://www.yqcomputer.com/ "

I just looked in those directories and it's even easier, cos before each
file with a date in it's name is created, another is done with just the name
"cur_table.sql.bz2"

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Post by Nigel Felt » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 07:52:45


If you're using the local SQL server method then I guess you could just
write a script that compares the download page with a local copy and
downloads any database files that have changed and replaces the local copy
with the new one (slow though as they're heavily compressed - they expand
to about 4x the size).

If you mean the html version then you could download the converter script
and run this against the new SQL file every time you detect and download
latest version.

I suggest that if you need to download the full database to resync then you
only update your local copy weekly to reduce the load on their server (how
likely is it you'll actually need to look up any info that's changed
recently anyway - monthly resync may even be often enough).

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Post by Jim Richar » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:15:31

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yeah, after I looked at the site, and the frequency of the dumps, it
looks like a monthly sync will be just fine.


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Post by cdstran » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:11:55


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Thanks very much for the information. Thanks also for the comment
about google, which is my choice of reference generally, but the
circumstances dictate no internet connection for the present.

Regards,
 
 
 

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Post by cdstran » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:16:49


(( cuts ))


Thanks for the comment. I haven't installed gui at all in the past on
servers, but I may in the future. I'm not Mandrake's biggest fan,
I've had trouble with their video drivers, of all things. I installed
Redhat on my laptop with everything for a home desktop and it took a
while, until I got the pcmcia straighted out, and I have thought about
installing it, but I'm going to go away from Redhat, I believe.

Regards,
 
 
 

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Post by cdstran » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:35:29


I have installed redhat in text only a few times, but I have done it
from my own notes as I have learned through trial and error and I
think I can make it better, but text only documentation is not common.
For several reasons I would like to make the initial installation as
lean as possible, though I may be installing mysql and php fairly
quickly afterward.

In any case, I have decided to get away from redhat. I have debian,
gentoo, mandrake and slackware in addition to redhat (no, I don't...I
need more), which I have collected the last few months, and I though
debian sounded the most interesting and was hoping to find an easy to
follow text-based installation script.

Thanks for your comments.
 
 
 

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Post by Jim Richar » Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:13:04

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For me, Gentoo had the easiest to follow written instructions. Very
straight forward, and I liked the chrooted install a lot :)

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Post by Terr » Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:56:03

cdstrand threw some tea leaves on the floor



I don't know of a single article however none of this is especially
hard.

If you use Debian just enter :-
"apt-cache search mailreader | grep text"

and so on to find the apps you need, then install them ?


`"dict" is a text based server and uses a number of dictionaries/encyclopedias
ie

tp@gronk:~$ dict encyclopedia


2 definitions found

From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]:

Encyclopedia \En*cy`clo*pe"di*a\, Encyclopaedia
\En*cy`clo*p[ae]"di*a\, n. [NL., fr. Gr. ?, for ? ?, instruction
in the circle of arts and sciences: cf. F. encyclop['e]die.
See {Cyclopedia}, and {Encyclical}.] [Formerly written
{encyclop[ae]dy} and {encyclopedy}.]
The circle of arts and sciences; a comprehensive summary of
knowledge, or of a branch of knowledge; esp., a work in which
the various branches of science or art are discussed
separately, and usually in alphabetical order; a cyclopedia.

From WordNet (r) 1.6 [wn]:

encyclopedia
n : a reference work (often in several volumes) containing
articles on various topics (often arranged in
alphabetical order) dealing with the entire range of
human knowledge or with some particular specialty [syn: {cyclopedia},
{encyclopaedia}, {cyclopaedia}]




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