[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by Roy Schest » Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:24:08


S3 Holiday Sales Total 1.2 Million

,----[ Quote ]
| Sony Corp. said Monday that PlayStation 3 game machine sales totaled 1.2
| million in North America during the key holiday season, boosting the strength
| of the company's Blu-ray video format because the PlayStation 3 also works as
| a Blu-ray player.
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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080106/japan_sony_playstation.html?.v=4

Toshiba, backed by Microsoft, hasn't given up yet, but it's looking bad despite
Microsoft's apparent briberies and self-fuelled format wars.

CES: Toshiba Standing Firm Supporting HD-DVD

,----[ Quote ]
| I would note that there is a big HD-DVD logo on the wall above the stage;
| they are not giving up exactly. They started the even by talking about
| HD-DVD, it turns out.
`----

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2008/01/06/ces-toshiba-standing-firm-supporting-hd-dvd/?mod=yahoobarrons

With Blu-Ray dominance -- if it has indeed won -- PS3 sales will increase (less
media duration uncertainty).


Related:

No Winner In Blu-ray, HD DVD Battle

,----[ Quote ]
| Both rival formats seeking to become the high-definition successor to the DVD
| have attracted consumers, and while Blu-ray Disc leads HD DVD, the race is
| far from over.
|
| [...]
|
| "That is the dirty secret no one is talking about," said Bay, director of the
| recent hit film "Transformers." "They want confusion in the market until they
| perfect the digital downloads." Microsoft sells HD movie and TV show
| downloads to its video game consoles through its Xbox Live Marketplace.
`----

http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/071224/tech.html?.v=1


Director: Microsoft fueling HD wars

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft is deliberately feeding into the HD disc format wars to ensure that
| its own downloads succeed where physical copies fail, says movie director
| Michael Bay in a response to a question posed through his official forums.
| The producer contends that Microsoft is writing "$100 million dollar checks"
| to movie studios to ensure HD DVD exclusives that hurt the overall market
| regardless of the format's actual merit or its popularity, preventing any one
| format from gaining a clear upper hand. Bay's own Transformers is available
| on disc only in the less popular HD DVD format despite his stated preference
| for Blu-ray. To the director, this is primarily a stalling tactic while
| Microsoft refines its own online-only technology.
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http://www.electronista.com/articles/07/12/04/bay.on.microsoft.hd/


Two Studios to Support HD DVD Over Rival

,----[ Quote ]
| But money talks: Paramount and DreamWorks Animation together will receive
| about $150 million in financial incentives for their commitment to HD
| DVD, according to two Viacom executives with knowledge of the deal but
| who asked not to be identified.
|
| The incentives will come in a combination of cash and promotional
| guarantees. Toshiba, for instance, will use the release of hrek the
| Thirdas part of an HD DVD marketing campaign.
|
| Paramount and DreamWorks Animation declined to comment. Microsoft, the
| most prominent technology company supporting HD DVDs, said it could not
| ^^^^^^^^^
| rule out payment but said it wrote no checks. e provided no financial
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| incentives to Paramount or DreamWorks whatsoever,said Amir Majidimehr,
| th
 
 
 

[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by Mark Ken » Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:42:34

Roy Schestowitz < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > espoused:

Does anyone else find this use of the word "holiday" more than a little
bizarre and confusing? Christmas is christmas, and we do have summer
holidays and we have christmas holidays, so if you shorten it to
"holiday" then you're referring to the summer holiday, anything else has
to be given its name, so that christmas is the short form for christmas
holiday.

I presume that this is political correctness borne of guilt regarding
the completely unjustifiable invasion of Iraq, but I might be wrong.

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[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by Mark Ken » Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:46:15

Roy Schestowitz < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > espoused:

It would seem that Sony are emerging with a highly successful sales
approach. Personally, I'm not convinced that the public are all that
interested in even higher definition video, they've never really been
all that bothered by video, or audio, quality, in the past.

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[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by Roy Schest » Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:54:33

____/ Mark Kent on Monday 07 January 2008 18:46 : \____


The higher definition is for Hollywood. It helps when they can make old
content 'expire' (no longer be playable). They are drying people up, so to
speak, and people then have to go out and get some more. Same situation with
Microsoft Office...

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[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by Mark Ken » Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:08:48

Roy Schestowitz < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > espoused:

I'm sure they'll be looking forward to reselling all that same content.
In a shopping mall in Canada over xmas, I saw lots of blue-ray films of
"old favourites" such as the terminator series. Why would you buy those
/again/, I wonder?

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[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by Roy Schest » Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:00:11

____/ Mark Kent on Tuesday 08 January 2008 07:08 : \____


Another industry worth accusing for this tactic is the fashion industry.

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[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by Mark Ken » Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:17:54

Roy Schestowitz < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > espoused:

To a point, yes, but at least when you buy something new, you /really/
get to buy it and wear it and use it. It's yours. I can't see sense
and rationality ever adding much to the (human) fertilisation game...

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[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by chris » Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:57:19


I don't think so, Roy. DVD's will always be playable. Unless you
have evidence to the contrary?


This is a factor, no doubt.


I mostly stopped buying any movie discs once I discovered Netflix...
 
 
 

[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by Hadro » Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:24:40

chrisv < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > writes:



Er, for the new editing, the higher resolutions the .... I'm sure you
get it.

Example : Lets say someone buys a copy of Marti's poster of you. Does
that give them the right to own the movie for free (yuck) when Marti
releases it? No. Why? New work. New content.


You're a self confessed tightwad. You would buy nothing if you could
steal it off a baby instead,
 
 
 

[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by DFS » Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:47:02


No Girlymen, a film by Marti T. van Lin
 
 
 

[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by Roy Schest » Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:35:42

____/ chrisv on Tuesday 08 January 2008 13:57 : \____



VCRs and gramophones are getting harder to find and also become more expensive.
It's gradual phasing out of technology that won't last forever. The solution
is to make backward compatible technology (like ODF).


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[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by chris » Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:59:37


Sure, eventually, the whole "optical disk" thing will be past it's
"use by" date. But, since HD video-disk players also play DVD disks,
they themselves cannot be a force to "expire" DVD disks.
 
 
 

[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by Tim Smit » Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:35:53

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,


How is ODF backward compatible?


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[News] Sony Claims Victory with Blu-Ray, 1.2 Million Holiday Sales of Linux-ready PS3s

Post by Roy Schest » Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:27:59

____/ chrisv on Tuesday 08 January 2008 16:59 : \____




Yes, but one key issue here (among more) is DRM, which has been described by
many as the monster that will eat digital preservation and spit it out. You
see, with tapes you could still trivially digitise, then put on a hard drive,
pass over to SSD, and so on. Another issue (among more) are formats that are
designed to spur 'upgrades' (monetary considerations over integrity). Will be
be able to open your Word files 20 years from now? 100 years? Is there
sufficient documentation? Is it elegant? Will known bug be understood at that
time? There's a good video in YouTube about "Digital curation". It's a
one-hour long lecture, but it's worth finding and watching.

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