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ollowing are excerpts from the official FAQ, entire text is found at:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/

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[comp.os.linux.advocacy] FAQ and Primer for COLA, Edition III

Copyright: (c) 2002 The FAQ and Primer for COLA Team -- All Rights Reserved

Frequently Asked Questions and Primer for comp.os.linux.advocacy

Edition III

April 19, 2002

+-------------------------------------------------+
| Beware of those who would call you a friend for |
| many will eat your bread while working against |
| you. They will take credit for your good works |
| and blame you for their own misdeeds. |
| - TheGreat Unknown |
+-------------------------------------------------+


(OFFICIAL FAQ CONTINUED)

7 Anti-Linux Propagandists and Trolls

The comp.os.linux.advocacy newsgroup is a newsgroup that is under siege by
one or more factions of anti-Linux propagandists. In the past those
factions have appeared to be confident and smug; however, as of late it
appears that they are becoming ever more desperate. The reason for their
desperation appears to be as a result of growth of the mind share of Linux
and the continuing failures of their chosen cause. Besides the true
anti-Linux propagandists there are also the occasional classic newsgroup
troll.

It can be difficult to determine what type of person a particular
disruptive personality is; an anti-Linux Propagandist or just a troll.
That is because they both use some of the same tactic. What it not
difficult to determine is what their purpose is when they post to COLA.
They are doing it to disrupt the newsgroup and sidetrack its purpose of
existence. Regardless of their reason for the disruption, they are trying
to prevent: the free exchange of knowledge and support based on experience
of using Linux that would otherwise be happening in COLA, if it were not
for their interference.

The free and open discussions between the experienced users and the new
users and the would be users of Linux that is our goal. That is the goal
of all those who would be Linux advocates as well as all others who come
to COLA to discuss Linux. All of us, Linux users new and old, those
curious about Linux, and others, have come to COLA as students and as
teachers. All that is except for the anti-Linux propagandists and the
trolls, they have come to COLA to destroy it and prevent its being an
asset to the Linux community.

As has been stated else where in this document, all are welcome in COLA,
except those who come to COLA to destroy Linux, COLA, or the Linux
Community.

7.1 Disinformation

If COLA were a physical location like a building where those who would
advocate the growth of the Linux operating systems and the Linux community
gather, the anti-Linux propagandists would be raiding that building. They
would be vandalizing the building, painting graffiti on the walls,
defecating and urinating on the floors and furniture, breaking down the
doors, setting fire to the building and physically assaulting the resident
Linux advocates and the visitors who hap

LOL.

You could not make this stuff up! Hilarious!!!


36. Enter COLA as a sleeper.
If you are a new anti-Linux propagandist, or at least your current
false identity is new, then make your entrance as a dedicated Linux
user. After a little while, claim to have seen the light and "convert
back to Windows". Then you can promote Windows all you want for a
while, before your true nature is commonly known. Sometimes this works
for several hours before you are shouted down and have to move on to a
new identity or continue on as "normal" anti-Linux propagandist.

ROTFLM!

adron wrote:

Hadron as Steve Townsend, LOL!

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/521341c9fa017edc

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: Steve Townsend < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:52:00 +0100
Subject: Re: Windows 7: The 'Dog Food' Tastes Bad

[quote]
Ben [...] writes:

Actually most Windows user never come across this. So do try to
be honest. You appear, like this Chris guy, to make things up in
order to pursue some sort of anti MS vendetta.


I do not believe you. Open Office is a great alternative for
creating the parish magazine but that would be about it. A super
initiative and one day it might well get there. However I think
its a long away from being adopted in offices - it is missing too
much.


One only has to look around I think. You do not need to be a
genius to realise Linux is a very, very minority operating
system. There are more apple shops near me than linux users. And
that says something I think.


No. Some is very good. Firefox is great.


I do not believe you. They might accept doc files produced by
Open Office but they do not or most do not accept odt.


What headache? Did you get a virus. If you need help setting up
and securing your system I can help you as I have a lot of
experience. There is no reason any half sensible person can not
keep their windows clean.
[/quote]

--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green

"Hadron" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > schreef in bericht


ROFL *COUGH* *CHOKE* *WHEEZE* , good suggestion from HPT!, he's an
*excellent* troll feeder for COLA!


<aside>
Move over, "7", a new king of retards is born!
The herd is gathering for this title: Willy, HPT, dumkopf, Terry, Roy,
Liarmutt, chrisv, "7".

ollowing are excerpts from the official FAQ, entire text is found at:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/

********************************************************

[comp.os.linux.advocacy] FAQ and Primer for COLA, Edition III

Copyright: (c) 2002 The FAQ and Primer for COLA Team -- All Rights Reserved

Frequently Asked Questions and Primer for comp.os.linux.advocacy

Edition III

April 19, 2002

+-------------------------------------------------+
| Beware of those who would call you a friend for |
| many will eat your bread while working against |
| you. They will take credit for your good works |
| and blame you for their own misdeeds. |
| - TheGreat Unknown |
+-------------------------------------------------+


(OFFICIAL FAQ CONTINUED)

7 Anti-Linux Propagandists and Trolls

The comp.os.linux.advocacy newsgroup is a newsgroup that is under siege by
one or more factions of anti-Linux propagandists. In the past those
factions have appeared to be confident and smug; however, as of late it
appears that they are becoming ever more desperate. The reason for their
desperation appears to be as a result of growth of the mind share of Linux
and the continuing failures of their chosen cause. Besides the true
anti-Linux propagandists there are also the occasional classic newsgroup
troll.

It can be difficult to determine what type of person a particular
disruptive personality is; an anti-Linux Propagandist or just a troll.
That is because they both use some of the same tactic. What it not
difficult to determine is what their purpose is when they post to COLA.
They are doing it to disrupt the newsgroup and sidetrack its purpose of
existence. Regardless of their reason for the disruption, they are trying
to prevent: the free exchange of knowledge and support based on experience
of using Linux that would otherwise be happening in COLA, if it were not
for their interference.

The free and open discussions between the experienced users and the new
users and the would be users of Linux that is our goal. That is the goal
of all those who would be Linux advocates as well as all others who come
to COLA to discuss Linux. All of us, Linux users new and old, those
curious about Linux, and others, have come to COLA as students and as
teachers. All that is except for the anti-Linux propagandists and the
trolls, they have come to COLA to destroy it and prevent its being an
asset to the Linux community.

As has been stated else where in this document, all are welcome in COLA,
except those who come to COLA to destroy Linux, COLA, or the Linux
Community.

7.1 Disinformation

If COLA were a physical location like a building where those who would
advocate the growth of the Linux operating systems and the Linux community
gather, the anti-Linux propagandists would be raiding that building. They
would be vandalizing the building, painting graffiti on the walls,
defecating and urinating on the floors and furniture, breaking down the
doors, setting fire to the building and physically assaulting the resident
Linux advocates and the visitors who happen to be in the building at the
time of th

ollowing are excerpts from the official FAQ, entire text is found at:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/

********************************************************

[comp.os.linux.advocacy] FAQ and Primer for COLA, Edition III

Copyright: (c) 2002 The FAQ and Primer for COLA Team -- All Rights Reserved

Frequently Asked Questions and Primer for comp.os.linux.advocacy

Edition III

April 19, 2002

+-------------------------------------------------+
| Beware of those who would call you a friend for |
| many will eat your bread while working against |
| you. They will take credit for your good works |
| and blame you for their own misdeeds. |
| - TheGreat Unknown |
+-------------------------------------------------+


(OFFICIAL FAQ CONTINUED)

7 Anti-Linux Propagandists and Trolls

The comp.os.linux.advocacy newsgroup is a newsgroup that is under siege by
one or more factions of anti-Linux propagandists. In the past those
factions have appeared to be confident and smug; however, as of late it
appears that they are becoming ever more desperate. The reason for their
desperation appears to be as a result of growth of the mind share of Linux
and the continuing failures of their chosen cause. Besides the true
anti-Linux propagandists there are also the occasional classic newsgroup
troll.

It can be difficult to determine what type of person a particular
disruptive personality is; an anti-Linux Propagandist or just a troll.
That is because they both use some of the same tactic. What it not
difficult to determine is what their purpose is when they post to COLA.
They are doing it to disrupt the newsgroup and sidetrack its purpose of
existence. Regardless of their reason for the disruption, they are trying
to prevent: the free exchange of knowledge and support based on experience
of using Linux that would otherwise be happening in COLA, if it were not
for their interference.

The free and open discussions between the experienced users and the new
users and the would be users of Linux that is our goal. That is the goal
of all those who would be Linux advocates as well as all others who come
to COLA to discuss Linux. All of us, Linux users new and old, those
curious about Linux, and others, have come to COLA as students and as
teachers. All that is except for the anti-Linux propagandists and the
trolls, they have come to COLA to destroy it and prevent its being an
asset to the Linux community.

As has been stated else where in this document, all are welcome in COLA,
except those who come to COLA to destroy Linux, COLA, or the Linux
Community.

7.1 Disinformation

If COLA were a physical location like a building where those who would
advocate the growth of the Linux operating systems and the Linux community
gather, the anti-Linux propagandists would be raiding that building. They
would be vandalizing the building, painting graffiti on the walls,
defecating and urinating on the floors and furniture, breaking down the
doors, setting fire to the building and physically assaulting the resident
Linux advocates and the visitors who happen to be in the building at the
time of th

Doesn't work for "Hadron". He just creates the appearence of a lying
POS.

--
'In other words, there are no "levels" of security, either you are
secure or you're not.' - Erik Funkenbusch

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____/ chrisv on Thursday 29 January 2009 14:24 : \____



It's a very comprehensive and almost exhaustive list of troll tactics.

...almost like the "technical evangelist" guidelines -- reverse engineered.

Ever since Microsoft announced the layoffs, the trolls have been rather
impotent.

Windows is now a freebie (for OEMs and sub-notebooks) and Office is under siege
as well. Microsoft is not prepared to deal with these market dynamics. Intel
is bruised too.

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And how about Flatshit's recent meltdown? He was pretty disappointed
that he was not allowed to sashay around here pretending to be a
respectable Linux user, while at the same time being an insulting
*** . It was hilarious to read his foaming and whining collapse.

They've always been impotent. They're just fleas riding on a big dog.
I don't take any pleasure in Microsoft's misfortunes, however.


Sure they are. They've been diversifying for some time now. They
didn't get to be where they are by being stupid.


I don't see any reason to be happy about that either.

After takin' a swig o' grog, High Plains Thumper belched out
this bit o' wisdom:


Somehow, I doubt Hadron was much of a schoolyard bully. Probably frequently
victimized by the footballers.


Heh.


--
I can't seem to bring myself to say, "Well, I guess I'll be toddling along."
It isn't that I can't toddle. It's that I can't guess I'll toddle.
-- Robert Benchley

That's true, but I was reacting to the suggestion that Microsoft was
going out of business. They need not duplicate their Windows/Office
monopoly to survive and be successful.


I blame M$'s competitors for putting the Windows monopoly where it is.
Most of them were short-sighted, or greedy, or helped M$ by making their
products Windows-only.

The DOS deal with IBM happened 28 years ago. That can't be the
perpetual reason for the Windows monopoly.


They do well enough in other markets. No worse than many other
successful companies you could name.

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____/ Sermo Malifer on Thursday 29 January 2009 16:47 : \____




Intel is all about x86 and it's highly corrupt.

Regarding the former point: without Intel, the industry might escape to
MIPS/ARM, which takes Microsoft away from 'home base'.

Regarding the former: c.f. briberies vs. AMD; Vista collusion; attack on OLPC;
dirty tricks with OEMs and docs; past stories of fraud.

- --
~~ Best of wishes

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____/ Sermo Malifer on Thursday 29 January 2009 20:32 : \____





I suppose you know nothing about the sabotage of DR-DOS and OS/2? I can post
reminders if you like. I'd be happy to.


They used corruption to dominate desktop O/Ses and office suites. In other
markets they typically fail miserably, but the losses are outweighed by gains
made through price-fixing (no competition) in Microsoft's bread-and-butter
division.

- --
~~ Best of wishes

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lies.
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