Why didn't Ian Hilliard do his homework assignment?

Why didn't Ian Hilliard do his homework assignment?

Post by DFS » Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:24:53


A month ago Ian Hilliard claimed

"No, I sound like who has been in the IT industry for a long time and has
seen the industry go from being vibrant and innovative to being a
distribution channel for Microsoft and a few other big software houses."

I asked him for examples and he ran away. How surprising.
 
 
 

Why didn't Ian Hilliard do his homework assignment?

Post by Hadro » Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:16:17

"DFS" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > writes:


Ian Hilliard is a blow hard. According to him, projects he "manages" are
NEVER late because he plans for ALL eventualities.

There must be a queue a mile long for his services that's all I can say.

Crisis meeting : Ian, Ian, the top programmer has left for a new job as
CTO in a new startup for a million dollars a week. How will we meet our
deadline?

Ian (puffing up and looking smug): Minions! Fortunately I <chest out
more and red in the face wagging finger> planned for this. We
will divert 20 programmers from the legacy system to the tasks that he
has abandoned.

Rest of IT world : hahahahahahahahahahaha! Go and read the Mythical Man
Month you blustering ninny.

Only in COLA....

 
 
 

Why didn't Ian Hilliard do his homework assignment?

Post by Ian Hillia » Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:08:23

Once again DFS proved the fool:


If you hadn't noticed, some people actually work for a living. As for my
statement about the industry becoming a distribution channel for Microsoft,
how about you prove that I am wrong. I don't think you can, because my
statement was the truth.

Ian
 
 
 

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Post by Tim Smit » Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:47:14

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,


Yup...it's all Microsoft nowadays. Looking around IT here, we are using
Microsoft Apache for web servers. We write our back end software in
Microsoft PHP or Microsoft Perl. I don't recall if we are using
Microsoft Sendmail or Microsoft Postfix for our email. It's all mostly
running on Microsoft Linux. We've got Microsoft MySQL for our databases.
Yup...can't escape Microsoft in IT...

--
--Tim Smith
 
 
 

Why didn't Ian Hilliard do his homework assignment?

Post by 7 » Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:20:59

Micoshaft Appil asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock Tim Smith
wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Appil Department of Marketing:





All outdated information.
60% of all webservers running Linux, Apache and MySQL because its cheaper,
well supported, open source and very hard for hackers to compromise.

Netbooks - at least 30% run Linux.
The rest doesn't make any money for micoshaft because the OS is too
expensive when competing with Linux solutions - so either the hardware
amount has to sacrificed so that micoshaft may live, or the price has
to be disportionally high to the hardware costs so that micoshaft may live.
The 5000 micoshaftees being sacked is just the beginning.
The Linux open source business models are thriving even in a downturn.
Embedded Linux 3 million+ embedded gadgets PER DAY (like Flat TVs,
routers, DVD players, MP3,4,5 players, IP *** s etc) keeping vast numbers
of retailers and factories alive. Linux makes more money for retailers
than all of micoshaft and appil combined. More reasons to leverage
them out and put in Linux solutions because Linux brings home the bacon.
 
 
 

Why didn't Ian Hilliard do his homework assignment?

Post by Hadro » Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:09:07

Tim Smith < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > writes:



Good response. Hilliard seems totally blind to the real world. In one
article he says how he ONLY uses OSS etc and the other he tells us its
impossible not to use MS. Apparently not compiling drivers also dumbs
people down. I am beginning to wonder if he is sane.
 
 
 

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Post by Hadro » Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:14:59

7 < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > writes:



We'll put that down as a major whoosh then.
 
 
 

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Post by Chris Ahls » Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:43:50

After takin' a swig o' grog, Tim Smith belched out
this bit o' wisdom:



Just ask Programmer's Paradise.

And what about those dudes migrating to Microsoft SharePoint?

On a sad note, this is a good time to note the demise of Dr. Dobb's Journal.
In recent years, the magazine got thinner and thinner. The last couple of
years, it was almost like an in-depth catalog for certain software products,
with a few actual programming articles thrown in.

Now, it's just a section in Information Week, which replaces my actual DDJ
magazine subscription.

>>sniffle<<

--
Never argue with a woman when she's tired -- or rested.
 
 
 

Why didn't Ian Hilliard do his homework assignment?

Post by Ian Hillia » Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:10:59


You must be in an interesting place to work. On recent discussions, we were
told that we could not sell our product into the US market unless it was
running on Windows and used MSSQL as its database. This despite the fact
that it is written in Java and uses Oracle as its database.

The simple problem is that most companies have MSCE's for their IT staff.
There is nothing in the MSCE training that teaches fundamentals. Hence,
these people will insist, in fact force the use of Microsoft products for
fear that their lack of real computer knowledge will become apparent. After
all, there is no need to understand what you are doing, when there are
wizards to do all the work :-)

Ian
 
 
 

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Post by Ian Hillia » Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:25:11


The reality in most companies is that it is ALL Windows, because the MSCE's
running the system refuse to allow anything else. It is very hard to find a
Linux netbook in a retail store, because they can't sell add-ons to a Linux
netbook. The Microsoft marketing machine is still very successful in
marginalising Linux, so while a lot of CE uses Linux, companies see a
negative conetation in telling their customers about it. The result is that
while a lot of people are using Linux, they don't know about it.

Linux is making inroads, but it is hard to fight an entrenched,
multi-billion Dollar marketing machine, which has no scruples, when all you
have is a better product.

Ian
 
 
 

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Post by Ezekie » Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:40:49


Really. And exactly who is it who "told" you that you aren't allowed to
sell product in the US unless it ran on Windows.

I'm sorry but this sounds like complete and utter bullcrap.




I really don't care if it's written in Fortran and runs on Amiga-OS. It's a
complete LIE if you're trying to claim that somehow you are forbidden from
selling a product in the US unless it runs on Windows and uses MSSQL.



(From your previous post)

--> "As for my statement about the industry becoming a distribution channel
for Microsoft, how about you prove that I am wrong. "

It doesn't work that way. If /you/ make a statement then the onus of
providing proof rests with /you./ It's up to someone else to prove
otherwise. If I make a claim then I'm prepared to back up my statements. I
don't shun away from providing proof with some ridiculous claim that my
statement stands correct until proven otherwise.
 
 
 

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Post by Hadro » Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:19:16

Ezekiel" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > writes:


Everything he says is. It's like a more project manager / techie hybrid
of Rexx and Liarnut.


Of course it is. I suspect he was told there no market for it. A
different thing altogether.

I can see Ian now on the carpet :

Hilliard : "but Boss we can sell it to Linux users"
Boss (reaching for trapdoor button) : "err, ok, but it will target
Windows too wont it?"
Hilliard <starting to froth and twitch> : "Dont dumb yourself down sir,
LInux doesnt dumb users down and they are not wintards and
.... aiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee".
Boss (talking into intercom) : "Carol, get me recruitment. We need a new
PM".


Ian Hilliard is becoming more frothy and ridiculous with every post.

 
 
 

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Post by Ian Hillia » Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:42:21

zekiel wrote:


Do all you trolls study at the same school of mis-reading comprehension?

I did not say that it is not allowed to sell solutions running on other than
Windows. The non-Microsoft solutions won't be bought in the US, because the
MSCE's that run the infrastructure will rail against them, much in the same
way as you rail against Linux in this group.

The problem is not that the solutions running on Unix or Linux are worse or
even more expensive than Windows. In most cases they are better. The
problem is that that many MSCE's refuse to use anything but Windows.
Management then bow down to these people, because they don't know any
better. It is this army of Microsoft foot soldiers that keep Microsoft's
second rate products in the enterprise and this is why the whole IT
industry has been forced to become a marketing channel for Microsoft.

Ian
 
 
 

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Post by DFS » Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:14:32


I swear to God you Linux idiots get dumber and dumber each year. It's one
moronic claim and lie after another.

Left side of idiots' mouths: Microsoft is dying, Windows 7 to be
'thoroughly' tested by antitrust regulators

Right side of idiots' mouths: Microsoft controls the IT industry, and is
above the law
 
 
 

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Post by Ian Hillia » Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:43:50


I work in the IT industry and as far as I can see Microsoft is still well
entrenched. Still, there was a time when it was believed that IBM would
always be at the top of the pack. In IBM's case, it took only five years to
go from hero to zero.

Microsoft's biggest strength is all the Microsoft only IT people, like you,
who will accept what ever Microsoft delivers, because they have no choice.

Ian