Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by linuxquest » Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:57:16


I hope that these questions are not too dumb.

I recently installed RedHat Advanced Server 2.1.
When I installed, I didn't see my video card, so I
just used the default, or generic. I got nice graphics
during the install, and used the mouse.

Now, when I boot, the default init level is 5.
However, I only ever get the text prompt. It looks
like an old DOS computer screen.


The video card is:
nvidia gforce fx 5200
that came with the Dell.

I looked on the nvidia website for the drivers at:

http://www.yqcomputer.com/
and
http://www.yqcomputer.com/

and found:
Version: 1.0-4496
Operating System: Linux IA32
Release Date: July 28, 2003

It says that it supports:
GeForce FX 5900 support

Do you think that these would work with my 5200?

I emailed nvidia, but their support had close to
a 100% failure ratio. The only reason it is not
100% failure is that it had automatic response bots
to tell me to go away and figure it out myself,
or bother someone else. Thus, I'm asking you guys.
Sorry.
 
 
 

Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by Dances Wit » Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:16:01

[ non-Linux NGs removed ]
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.hardware.] On 24 Nov 2003
18:57:16 -0800, XXXX@XXXXX.COM staggered into the Black Sun and
said:

We were all newbies once.


During the install, RHAS was using the VESA framebuffer. This always
works, but it's slow and is not recommended if you're going to actually
sit at the machine's console and use X.


Did you configure X properly, using the X configuration tool provided by
Redhat? If this machine is really going to be a server, why does it
need X? If it's going to be a desktop, why did you pay the extra for
RHAS?

[nVidia evil binary-only kernel modules and such]

Yes, if you read the README and follow the directions. Alternatively,
and perhaps more easily, you can use the Free "nv" X server, which will
work as long as you don't need hardware-accelerated 3D. (Why do you
need hardware-accelerated 3D on a server?) I think Redhat's X
configuration is done via the "setup" command, so log in as root and
enter "setup" on the command line, then navigate the menus until you
find "X configuration", then follow that.


Next time, try something *before* posting to a newsgroup, and report
what you tried, and how it failed.
http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html , HTH.

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Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by mjt » Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:54:18


... then it aint runlevel 5 :) .... gather all your h/w info,
such as keybd, mouse, video card, monitor to include the
horiz/vert refresh rates and run "xf86config"
.
--
/// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\
\\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
fortune: cpu time/usefulness ratio too high -- core dumped.
 
 
 

Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by linuxquest » Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:50:47

Thanks for responding.

I need Advanced Server for Oracle. The video card just came with this
machine. I don't need 3d, but I do the gui to work.


So, do I need to config X manually? This will be different from my
Suse installation, which configed X as part of the install.

What if I just reinstall everything, and choose a Gforce card,
with a lower number? Should that work?


Thanks.

When you guys install the regular RedHat, does it config X, and boot
to init 5, with the GUI?


Well, I reported what I installed, and the symptoms. I spent seven
hours searching for info last night. Is this normal install for AS?
Run level not configured right? Video Card? Looking for drivers.
Reading the README. Something else?

I'm not a big fan of trial and error. It's often led to lots of trouble
and wasted time.
 
 
 

Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by Thomas Ric » Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:18:27

Hi,


Well, guess what, X11 doesn't care about Oracle. (-;

And I afraid by crystal ball is under repair, so more information is
needed to fix the problem. Post your /etc/X11/XF86Config or related
file here, and post /var/log/XFree86.0.log here as well, and then we'll
see what can be done against it.



Quite unnecessary, and a lot more work than just to correct the X
settings.


Will require the nvidia custom driver. Go to their web-page,
download the driver and install it. You'll find a readme in its
archive.


AFAIK, the "nv" won't support the FX 5200. For very simple unaccellerated
access, the "vesa" driver should do it, though.


If the graphics card is supported, yes.



Please post the configuration files and the log files.


Yes. Please collect the information requested above, then come back.


Might be. But this ain't windows. Reinstallation might take longer, and
might not even solve the trouble either. The problem is most likely
easily fixed if you know how, or if we know how if you provide the
information. (-;

Hence: Config file please, log file please. Monitor (CRT/TFT) and
where it's connected (DVI/VGA) might help as well.

So long,
Thomas
 
 
 

Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by The Black » Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:13:26


Alright... The term "DOS" is somewhat antiquated, so I will no longer
use it when referring to a linux shell.

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Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by mjt » Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:23:15


.... uhhhhhh. the OP said "it looks like an old DOS screen".
why are you on about 'DOS prompt' and 'DOS shell'???? there
is no such thing on Linux :)
.
--
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\\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
"Benson, you are so free of the ravages of intelligence"
 
 
 

Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by Ivor Cav » Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:05:40


When I type startx at a dos prompt it says "command not found"
C:\
:)

Ivor Cave
 
 
 

Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by The Black » Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:43:15


But further down the list you should be able to select the generic
driver used for nVidia FX cards.


Weird. So when you enter telinit 5 or startx at the DOS prompt what
happens? Normally when the X server has difficulty starting, the
display goes black, then you see the DOS shell, then it goes black
again, etc, and an error message eventually appears with a blue background.

If it gets that far then maybe posting the contents of your XF86Config
file in /etc/X11/ might give us a clue.


The drivers support the FX5200. Click the "README - Text Version" link
on the same webpage.


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Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by linuxquest » Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:21:21

Here is what I did. Do a lot of reading from the nvidia website.
And google. Look at a lot of files.

Reinstall everything. Probably not necessary, but I wanted
to change the sizes of the partitions. Choose to use the
video card: Nvidia Gforce

Install as many options as possible!

Including almost everything concerned with X, and gcc, and libraries,
etc. Config at install to boot to init 3.

Reboot. It boots to text again. init 5 won't work.

Download the .rpm file from nvidia. Install it.
Since I'm not yet connected to the internet, tell it to
compile the kernel without searching the net.

After many hours, and much reading, finally edit the file:
/etc/X11/XF68Config-4
which was the file that was being used as the default.

Change a few lines:

Change the line
Driver "nv"
to
Driver "nvidia"

comment out the parts for GLcore, and dri:

Section "Module"
# Load "GLcore"
# Load "dri"

Reboot to init3.
init 5.
Works. Brings up X, and gnome.

I'm not sure if this is the best it should be. But so far the
GUI works. I'll look more soon.

What a lot of work!!!!

Ratio of reading to editing:
thousands, probably hundreds of thousands of words read.
to
one word edited, and two lines commented.

Just to get a fundamental thing like the video card to work.

How's that for making (in)efficient use of my time?
Isn't the computer suppposed to serve me? Not the other way around?

So I do appreciate all the help everyone has given!
 
 
 

Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by Bit Twiste » Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:37:14


I just read the document supplied in the package.
 
 
 

Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by mjt » Wed, 03 Dec 2003 22:32:01


... i do the anti-male thing: read the manual FIRST
.
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\\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
To be intoxicated is to feel sophisticated but not be able to say it.
 
 
 

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Post by linuxquest » Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:44:17

I wish my endeavors were just that simple. I also read the doc.

But first I had to figure out that it was the video card. I've
never seen a video card give trouble before. That took a lot of
research over a few days to conclude that it was the video card.

Then the doc was 55 pages long. I read most of it, and made 12
pages of notes.

In the end, I only had to comment two lines, and change a word
on another line.

So, I "just" read the document too. It bothers me how much was
involved to do something that was pretty simple. You would think
that the scripts would do this for you.
 
 
 

Text mode in init 5! NVIDIA drivers

Post by Anthony Ne » Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:52:13


[...]

Yes, I know what you mean. I have spent days trying to get the video capture on my MSI FX5900 Ultra working
which included stuffing around with the AGP recognition part of some driver source code searching for a bug
which didn't really exist. All it took was an option to the agpgart.o module and a simple modification to the
source code to recognise my card and it worked. I could watch TV in Linux.fedora. Now after downloaded and
installing an updated kernel, it no longer works. grrrr..

Tony.

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