Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Post by ashish.moh » Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:14:26


I am trying to create Tom's root boot with tomsrtbt-2.0.103.dos.zip.
As stated in the instructions, I Unzipped this file into a directory,
did a 'cd' into that director and typed in 'install' on the MS-DOS
prompt. According to the instructions, 'install' should guide me
through the the root boot floppy creation. But after typing 'install',
my screen just writes out some messages on the screen and returns back
to the command prompt. What am I doing wrong? The messages it writes
to the screen are:


Could these messages be the reason why 'install' is not working
properly? What is the way out? I never thought creating the root boot
could be such difficult.

Thanks.
Ashish.
 
 
 

Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Post by mjt » Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:11:36


>>CPUsn86-modemayeINDOWS,MM,EMM,86MAX,..>> >>Youeedure86/486ealoderCPIerveroootin>>
>>>>
>>..>>
>>LOADLIN started from DOS-prom>>
>>WARNING : Not enough free mem<ry
> Could these messages be the reason why 'install' is not worki>g
> properly? What is the way out? I never thought creating the root bo>t
> could be such difficult

... it's saying you have to be in pure DOS mode, NOT a
"command prompt window (or screen)" in win98/win95/win2k
.
--
/// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\
\\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
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Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Post by ashish.moh » Sun, 09 Nov 2003 14:37:36

Hi!! Actually I am using Windows XP. I even tried 'pure DOS' mode but
it gave the same message.

The way I started XP in pure DOS mode was to press F8 during the boot
up process and then selecting 'Safe mode with Command Prompt'. This
seems to be the closest I could get to to pure DOS.

Howeve, it continued to give the same message. Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks.
Ashish.



> >>CPUsn86-modemayeINDOWS,MM,EMM,86MAX,..> >> >>Youeedure86/486ealoderCPIerveroootin>x>>> >>>.>>> >>..>.>>> >>LOADLIN started from DOS-prom>t>>> >>WARNING : Not enough free mem<ry > > > > > > Could these messages be the reason why 'install' is not worki>g> > > properly? What is the way out? I never thought creating the root bo>t> > > could be such difficu>t
> ... it's saying you have to be in pure DOS mode, NOT>a
> "command prompt window (or screen)" in win98/win95/win>k
> .
 
 
 

Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Post by mjt » Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:52:44


>> >>CPUsn86-modemayeINDOWS,MM,EMM,86MAX,..>> >> >>Youeedure86/486ealoderCPIerveroootin>> >>> >>>> >>> >>..>> >>> >>LOADLIN started from DOS-prom>> >>> >>WARNING : Not enough free mem<ry > >> >>> > Could these messages be the reason why 'install' is not worki>> >>> > properly? What is the way out? I never thought creating the root bo>> >>> > could be such difficu>>
>>>
>> ... it's saying you have to be in pure DOS mode, NOT>>
>> "command prompt window (or screen)" in win98/win95/win2k


TAKE NOTE: i have reformatted this to conform to accepted
USENET practices of bottom-posting.

if you top post again, i wont repond
>
> Hi!! Actually I am using Windows XP. I even tried 'pure DOS' mode b>t
> it gave the same messag>.
> The way I started XP in pure DOS mode was to press F8 during the bo>t
> up process and then selecting 'Safe mode with Command Prompt'. Th>s
> seems to be the closest I could get to to pure DOS.

... sorry, that is NOT what we're talking about - that is
still in protected mode, which isnt the same as real mode.
you must boot a REAL DOS, such as DOS 6.22
.
--
/// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\
\\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
If you live to the age of a hundred you have it made because very few
people die past the age of a hundred.
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Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Post by ashish.moh » Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:05:42

Apologies Michael for not conforming to USENET practices. Am better
informed now.

So, I did boot in 'Real DOS' mode but now have a new problem. When I
run INSTALL (to create Tom's root boot), it gives the following
message:

"
Uncompressing Linux . . .

crc error

-- System Halted
"

To recapitulate, I downloaded tomsrtbt-2.0.103.dos.zip, pkunzipped it,
booted in real DOS and then ran INSTALL command in the unzipped
folder.

What am I missing?

Thanks.
Ashish.
 
 
 

Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Post by Bit Twiste » Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:13:37


The diskette has to be completely free of bad blocks and I assume the
heads are not dirty on the diskette drive.
 
 
 

Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Post by mjt » Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:25:43


... there's a prob with the floppy disk, the reader, or both.
how about you re-write it to another floppy disk, one that is
new and freshly formatted. i've found that if i use a floppy
disk (sheesh, it's been years now) that is quite 'old', you'll
have problems
.
--
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\\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
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Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Post by Douglas Cl » Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:29:48


Reboot into DOS then try it again.

Good Luck
--
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get used to it
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Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Post by ashish.moh » Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:01:25

Thanks for helpful advices. But nothing seems to be working. I used a
new formatted a floppy disk but still the same 'CRC error'.

By the way, I am using Windows XP. When I booted in 'real DOS' mode,
it doesn't recognize the 'existing hard drive' partitions. For
example, when I type in C: drive, it says 'invalid drive
specification'. I researched further to find out that this is because
DOS version doesn't recognize any NTFS partitions (my hard drive is
NTFS).

So, I downloaded a utility NTFSDOS and ran it while i was in real DOS
mode. That allowed me to access the C: drive on my hard disk. From the
C: drive, I ran the 'INSTALL' needed to created Tom's root boot disk.
So, this is the whole story. Could my running NTFSDOS be the reason of
'CRC error'?

Thanks.
Ashish.
 
 
 

Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Post by mjt » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 03:20:41


... no, i doubt it. i read stuff off of NTFS drives while
using Linux. there is another possibility - the download
from Tom's is invalid - did you run a CRC check against
the downloaded file and compare with the md5sum value?
.
--
/// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\
\\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
Sure, Reagan has promised to take senility tests.
But what if he forgets?
 
 
 

Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Post by ashish.moh » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:51:34


OK I got it. You guys were absolutely right. Thank You so much for all
the help you rendered.

Indeed, the (three) floppies that I tried were all 'bad' and hence the
CRC error. Surprisingly, in Windows, I could format all three of them
and hence never doubted that they were not good.

I used a 'fresh' floppy and it worked like a charm.

Thanks again.
Ashish.
 
 
 

Tom's root boot creation problems to a newbie...

Post by mjt » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:07:25


... i have floppies in a shoebox from many many years ago,
i guess mostly for nastalgic reasons, some of which are
basically empty. the last time i tried writing to one of
these, it complained of the same issue. i suspect, after
time, they go south

BTW, just because m$ can format it, doesnt make the floppy
necessarily usable (as you found out)
.
--
/// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\
\\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///