NEWBIE QUESTION: XServer wont start

NEWBIE QUESTION: XServer wont start

Post by matthewina » Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:56:33


THE BACKGROUND:
1. I don't know anything ... in fact, I know less than nothing
2. Its a new install of Debian using the SARGE distro
3. Its rebuilt computer with 2 video cards in what i assume are PCI
slots 1 and 5 (I don't have a clue how to make sense of the lspci
results)
4. The video cards are ATI Diamond S80's 128mb (1 is AGP and the
other PCI)
5. running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 does not resolve the
problem
6. I am believe i am using the 4.3 release of XFree86, which is part
of the standard distro, and 4.4 does not appear to be available for
Debian

THE PROBLEM:
When booting up, at the host login, the screen flashes and tells me
that Xserver could not be started. Reviewing the logs in /var/logs
does not reveal anything to my SEVERELY untrained eye, except it
doesn't appear to like my video cards. Manually reviewing and
tinkering with the XF86Config-4 in the /etc/X11 directory makes no
difference.

note: I have been VERY careful in my edits and currently have returned
the file back to its original form.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!!!

the wondering nomad
 
 
 

NEWBIE QUESTION: XServer wont start

Post by matthewina » Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:02:12

For those who might be joining us in the middle of this program let me
explain ... actually ... let me summarize. I am a relative babe in
the woods (though learning neat tricks by the minute) ... X-server
won't start ... and here are the answers to diagnostic questions that
I think i have managed to provide. If the security settings are wrong
on my Yahoo briefcase then flog and fire the web master!!!

After staggering around in the Black Sun, this is what i found ...


http://www.yqcomputer.com/ +grep+VGA.txt?BCb8hTBBFQJzAfsY


Radeon 9200SE (rev 1)


XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 (for once i was right)


http://www.yqcomputer.com/


http://www.yqcomputer.com/

Ok ... I think i have answered the first barrage of questions ... let
the second bombardment commence!!!

In all seriousness ... thanks for the help!

m

 
 
 

NEWBIE QUESTION: XServer wont start

Post by Dances Wit » Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:16:08

On 19 Sep 2004 17:02:12 -0700, Matthew staggered into the Black Sun and
said:


Haven't been on Usenet long, eh? The standard way to keep people up to
date is to include context from previous posts. Include just enough to
give people an idea; include Message-IDs from previous messages in the
thread if really necessary.


That's good.


The links aren't working at all. "Connection timed out when attempting
to contact bcvrf.yahoo.com ." I've never heard of this "Yahoo
briefcase" and I'm not impressed by it just from the apparantly-useless
CGI parameters required.

By "your webspace", I meant "the 5 or 10 M of space most ISPs provide to
their users; typically accessible with http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ~username
". Consult your ISP's FAQ for advice on uploading files to that space.
If your ISP doesn't provide webspace, it's probably not a very good ISP.
5 or 10 M isn't much, but it can be simpler than running your own
webserver. If you have no other alternative, send the files to my
e-mail (mind the SPAN TRAP) and I'll post them on my webspace and follow
up with URLs for anyone who's interested.

--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / mail: TRAP + SPAN don't belong
http://www.yqcomputer.com/ / Hire me!
-----------------------------/ http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ~mhgraham/resume
 
 
 

NEWBIE QUESTION: XServer wont start

Post by matthewina » Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:13:37

> The links aren't working at all. "Connection timed out when attempting

Well ... for better or worse ... Yahoo/SBC is my ISP (they provide my
DSL service), and so I fall into the category of one of the faceless
masses in the mega-superstore of ISPs.

I am emailing the files so that we can continue the discussion and
hopefully put my evil wanton windows ways behind me.

m
 
 
 

NEWBIE QUESTION: XServer wont start

Post by Dances Wit » Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:35:50

On 19 Sep 2004 23:13:37 -0700, Matthew staggered into the Black Sun and
said:

SBC are a bunch of clueless *** ers IME. YMMV. Yahoo used to be
useful when it was a search engine/catalog of links. Now, they're just
a second-rate Google.


Check your inbox for bounces. This was sent many hours ago and there's
nothing from you in my gmail inbox. The From: and Reply-To: are both
accurate *if* you remove SPAN and TRAP from them, like my .signature
says.

--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / mail: TRAP + SPAN don't belong
http://www.yqcomputer.com/ / Hire me!
-----------------------------/ http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ~mhgraham/resume
 
 
 

NEWBIE QUESTION: XServer wont start

Post by Dances Wit » Wed, 22 Sep 2004 04:25:10

On 20 Sep 2004 14:35:50 GMT, Dances With Crows staggered into the Black
Sun and said:

OK, finally got the files. Here are the relevant sections:

XF86Config :

Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic Video Card"
Driver "radeon"
BusID "PCI:0:1:0"
VideoRam 128
EndSection

XFree86.0.log :
(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0)
(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:12:0)
(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:12:1)
(EE) No devices detected.

Why is there a BusID in your Device section? It's not correct according
to the XFree86.0.log file. You want "PCI:1:0:0" or you just want to
leave it out. Since both cards are the same chipset, you may actually
need the BusID. VideoRam is almost always in K, not M, so if you really
want to specify that, make that 131072.

Also, there need to be 2 Device sections if you want to use both video
cards at once, one for each video card, with proper BusIDs and different
Identifiers. There also needs to be one Screen section for each
connected monitor, and the ServerLayout section needs to be set up
properly. If you haven't already, I suggest you go to http://www.yqcomputer.com/
and read the Xinerama-HOWTO, since that'll explain how to set up an
XF86Config file for multiple monitors and possibly multiple graphics
cards. HTH,

--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / mail: TRAP + SPAN don't belong
http://www.yqcomputer.com/ / Hire me!
-----------------------------/ http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ~mhgraham/resume