VAX 4000/600 free to good home - Manchester UK

VAX 4000/600 free to good home - Manchester UK

Post by Tony Arnol » Tue, 29 Aug 2006 04:43:07


I have a VAX 4000 model 600 surplus to requirements which I would like to
see go to a good home rather than be scrapped. I'm in Manchester, UK. The
machine is rather bulky, so any takers would have to come and collect it
or arrange shipping at their cost.

It has something like 512MB of memory and three DSSI disks and a TK-70
drive all mounted in the same chassis. I don't have access to the machine
right now, so I'm going by memory here. Actual specification may be
different.

The only known fault that I am aware of is that I get error messages about
the fuse having blown on one of the DSSI channels. I've not been able to
locate said fuse so far!

There are no manuals with it.

If anyone is interested then please contact me personally by e-mail at
XXXX@XXXXX.COM . I no longer subscribe to these groups, so
I'm unlikely to see a response there.

Regards,
Tony.
 
 
 

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Post by helbi » Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:55:05

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, Tony
Arnold < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > writes:



I used to be in Manchester and I used to use this machine. I have seen
it. It is not desktop, but neither is it the size of a full-size
refrigerator. It will fit under a desk. It should fit in any car
(except perhaps something like a Smart or Fiat 500).

512 MB is a huge amount of memory for a VAX. This would make a good
hobbyist machine since it is quite powerful (for a VAX), can let one
learn about DSSI etc.

I would take it myself but I have to watch my space (I have 15 VAXes and
11 ALPHAs at home now; it's ALMOST time to stop!) and power bills (since
I have 3 or 4 (mostly small, but nevertheless) machines running full
time). However, for a hobbyist running just this machine, power
consumption shouldn't be too bad (you don't need three-phase power,
special fuses or whatever.) The machine is certainly in good working
order; fellow hobbyists: don't let it go to the s *** heap!

 
 
 

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Post by JF Meze » Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:39:44


If it weren't for trans-pond transportantion costs, I would most
certaintly take it. But if nobody else wants it, i would hope the
person would at least offer parts of it. I would take the memory boards
for instance and perhaps some DSSI drives and perhaps teh CPU board
(backup) etc etc.
 
 
 

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Post by Howard S S » Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:04:52

In article <ed0vd9$96v$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,
XXXX@XXXXX.COM (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to



If it's like my 4000 m 500A, it's 29" high, 19" wide, and around 17"
deep. And will weigh in at something like 100lbs or so. I've not
weighed my machine, so I can't say for sure. It was heavy, but I
managed to get it up the stairs by myself, though it took me a while.



It's an /insane/ amount of memory for a VAX. This is a problem?? :-)
What the heck was this machine doing?? Sound like someone simply maxed
it out!



I was gonna ask, but okay, you're excused. You don't have a low end
machine this could replace, though? C'mon. You know you want it.



Check the web for specs, people! This sounds like a heck of a box.

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Post by helbi » Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:53:05

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, Howard S
Shubs < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > writes:


Sounds about right.


I think it used to do quite a lot.


You're talking to someone (me!) who recently gave away an ALPHAserver
2000 and an ALPHAserver 2100. Actually, small, relatively fast VAXes
(e.g. VAXstation 4000/90A or VAX 4000/105A) are good enough for most of
what I do at home, can have SCSI disks and don't need much power or
space. I have an ALPHAserver 1200 (a.k.a. Digital Server 5305)
configured as a satellite which I boot up when I need to use CSWB which
is my most powerful machine (though now that I have two new (to me)
smaller EV5 machines, I'll probably use those for CSWB). I have an
ALPHA in the cluster so that I can let it have the cluster alias most of
the time to make use of TCPIP 5.4 features (mainly the anti-spam stuff)
and more advanced Fortran. At home, at most I would need more CPU power
if I do any number crunching, but EV5 and EV56 ALPHAs are what I need to
switch on there (and they will need less power and space than the big
VAX).
 
 
 

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Post by Howard S S » Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:50:39

In article <ed3qmh$tus$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,
XXXX@XXXXX.COM (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to



Okay, so this would /be/ the low end machine you'd upgrade. Must really
suck to be you! :-D

Wish you were on this side of the pond, or visa versa. Oh well. I've
honestly got more than I need in VAXes. I could use a more powerful
Alpha, though. My Alphastation 255 /works/ but it's, y'know, small.

I've found that my main CPU-bound task doesn't work well on Alpha. I
run the distributed.net client, you see. Compared to a PPC-based Mac,
or a Pentium-based Windows box, Alpha doesn't measure up. I understand
this is because Alpha doesn't have bit-wise shift in its architecture
while the others do. That operation is fairly central to the dnet
client. I haven't tried it on VAX due to lack of a client, though I've
considered trying to build such a client.

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Post by Tom Linde » Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:59:07

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:50:39 -0700, Howard S Shubs < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >



Even the first Alphas had a shift instruction, what they were lacking was
sign-extended moves for 8 and 16 bit integers.


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Post by Tony Arnol » Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:40:00

Wow, what a lot of interest this posting generated, not only here in the
news group but also privately.

Had several offers, but the first person to offer came and took it away on
Thursday. He is one of the few people I know of who has built a three
architecture cluster, so I reckon it's gone to a good home!

BTW, the machine only had 256MB, which is still an insane amount for a
VAX. Originally, it had two extra cabinets with a total of about 9 DSSI
disks. I disposed of these cabinets and their disks some time ago. It was
used at one time to run payroll and other administrative applications in a
small University here in the UK. I had to INIT/ERASE all the disks before
I was allowed to take it out of its machine room!

Regards,
Tony.