...............................................................

Hello the actual & potential SciFace GmbH customers worldwide,

Here you can see how the MuPAD 4 makers see their product and

their effort and their place at the symbolic calculation market

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

Can we read this in such a way,

"Our Impotence is your Frustration"

?

Best wishes,

Vladimir Bondarenko, MuPAD Beta Contest First Prize winner

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

VM and GEMM architect

Co-founder, CEO, Mathematical Director

http://www. *** tester.com/ *** Tester, LLC

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

...............................................................

I am curious. How much is Mupad being sold for lately?

On Apr 2, 3:09 am, "JB" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > writes:

JB> I am curious. How much is Mupad being sold for lately?

Gee! ;)

You hit the nail right by the head. 'Fraid this is a trade

secret, though, so alas I hardly expect to know the precise

figures...

Yet another point. What do MuPAD 4.0.2/4.0.1/4.0.0 customers

feel about the math correctness of the results produced by

MuPAD?

JB> I am curious. How much is Mupad being sold for lately?

Gee! ;)

You hit the nail right by the head. 'Fraid this is a trade

secret, though, so alas I hardly expect to know the precise

figures...

Yet another point. What do MuPAD 4.0.2/4.0.1/4.0.0 customers

feel about the math correctness of the results produced by

MuPAD?

..........................................................

As I feel this, the computational powers of

Maple 11 vs MuPAD 4 are kinda 100 : 1.

The prices of Maple 11 & MuPAD 4 are comparable.

MuPAD 4 has a level of incorrect math answers

not seen before in MuPAD 2.5 and MuPAD 3/3.5.

So, considering the computational power/price,

if we are speaking about Maple 11 and MuPAD 4,

even taken into account Maple 11 faults

I'd propose

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

Best wishes,

Vladimir Bondarenko, MuPAD Beta Contest First Prize winner

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

VM and GEMM architect

Co-founder, CEO, Mathematical Director

http://www. *** tester.com/ *** Tester, LLC

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

..........................................................

On Apr 7, 12:01 pm, Christopher Creutzig < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >

As I feel this, the computational powers of

Maple 11 vs MuPAD 4 are kinda 100 : 1.

The prices of Maple 11 & MuPAD 4 are comparable.

MuPAD 4 has a level of incorrect math answers

not seen before in MuPAD 2.5 and MuPAD 3/3.5.

So, considering the computational power/price,

if we are speaking about Maple 11 and MuPAD 4,

even taken into account Maple 11 faults

I'd propose

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

Best wishes,

Vladimir Bondarenko, MuPAD Beta Contest First Prize winner

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

VM and GEMM architect

Co-founder, CEO, Mathematical Director

http://www. *** tester.com/ *** Tester, LLC

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

..........................................................

On Apr 7, 12:01 pm, Christopher Creutzig < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >

CTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: ')' expected [line 1, col 20]

ACTUAL: ...UNKNOWN and z = 1/4, infinity...

ACTUAL: NIL

ACTUAL: Being having fed into MuPAD repeatedly, yields

TWO distinct outputs

ACTUAL: -(nfinity - infinity)/(z^2 + 1)

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 40000 seconds

ACTUAL: Error: Illegal argument [icontent];

during evaluation of 'solvelib::iroots'

COMMENT: MuPAD 3.1 returns

Error: Illegal argument [divide];

during evaluation of 'solvelib::iroots'

MuPAD 2.5 returns

Error: Illegal operand [_union];

during evaluation of 'ode::interchange'

ACTUAL: After about 2000 seconds (!)

1. The output is TOTALLY absent

2. "Not Connected" error message in the status line

ACTUAL: // huge, and now includes FOUR unevaluated limits...

// after about 300 seconds (!)

ACTUAL: After about 18000 seconds at Core 2 duo 2.13 GHz

MuPAD returns an invalid, divergent answer (!)

including FOUR unevaluated limits

ACTUAL: Error: argument must be of 'Type::Arithmetical' [sin]

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: MuPAD(TM) Pro has encountered a problem and needs

to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

On Apr 7, 10:12 am, "Vladimir Bondarenko" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >

wrote:

ACTUAL: Error: ')' expected [line 1, col 20]

ACTUAL: ...UNKNOWN and z = 1/4, infinity...

ACTUAL: NIL

ACTUAL: Being having fed into MuPAD repeatedly, yields

TWO distinct outputs

ACTUAL: -(nfinity - infinity)/(z^2 + 1)

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 40000 seconds

ACTUAL: Error: Illegal argument [icontent];

during evaluation of 'solvelib::iroots'

COMMENT: MuPAD 3.1 returns

Error: Illegal argument [divide];

during evaluation of 'solvelib::iroots'

MuPAD 2.5 returns

Error: Illegal operand [_union];

during evaluation of 'ode::interchange'

ACTUAL: After about 2000 seconds (!)

1. The output is TOTALLY absent

2. "Not Connected" error message in the status line

ACTUAL: // huge, and now includes FOUR unevaluated limits...

// after about 300 seconds (!)

ACTUAL: After about 18000 seconds at Core 2 duo 2.13 GHz

MuPAD returns an invalid, divergent answer (!)

including FOUR unevaluated limits

ACTUAL: Error: argument must be of 'Type::Arithmetical' [sin]

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: MuPAD(TM) Pro has encountered a problem and needs

to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

On Apr 7, 10:12 am, "Vladimir Bondarenko" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >

wrote:

ACTUAL: Error: Illegal argument [comparison operator];

during evaluation of 'numeric::isnonzero'

ACTUAL: Error: cannot get *** function

[Series::gseries::dominates]

ACTUAL: Error: Overflow/underflow in arithmetical operation;

during evaluation of 'arg'

ACTUAL: Error: singularity;

during evaluation of 'Re'

ACTUAL: Error: Division by zero;

during evaluation of 'Sum::ratio'

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: MuPAD(TM) Pro has encountered a problem and needs

to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

ACTUAL: MuPAD(TM) Pro has encountered a problem and needs

to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

during evaluation of 'numeric::isnonzero'

ACTUAL: Error: cannot get *** function

[Series::gseries::dominates]

ACTUAL: Error: Overflow/underflow in arithmetical operation;

during evaluation of 'arg'

ACTUAL: Error: singularity;

during evaluation of 'Re'

ACTUAL: Error: Division by zero;

during evaluation of 'Sum::ratio'

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: MuPAD(TM) Pro has encountered a problem and needs

to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

ACTUAL: MuPAD(TM) Pro has encountered a problem and needs

to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica, Maple, and Derive yield a correct

output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica, Maple, and Derive yield a correct

output.

ACTUAL: Error: Illegal argument [icontent]; ...

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: First argument is not defined ...

ACTUAL: {}

ACTUAL: UNKNOWN

ACTUAL: Error: Overflow/underflow in arithmetical operation;

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 100000 seconds

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 100000 seconds

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 100000 seconds

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 100000 seconds

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 100000 seconds

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 100000 seconds

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica, Maple, and Derive yield a correct

output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica, Maple, and Derive yield a correct

output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica, Maple, and Derive yield a correct

output.

Mathematica, Maple, and Derive yield a correct

output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica, Maple, and Derive yield a correct

output.

ACTUAL: Error: Illegal argument [icontent]; ...

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: First argument is not defined ...

ACTUAL: {}

ACTUAL: UNKNOWN

ACTUAL: Error: Overflow/underflow in arithmetical operation;

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 100000 seconds

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 100000 seconds

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 100000 seconds

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 100000 seconds

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 100000 seconds

ACTUAL: MuPAD keeps running after 100000 seconds

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica, Maple, and Derive yield a correct

output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica, Maple, and Derive yield a correct

output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica, Maple, and Derive yield a correct

output.

.................................................................

We report that during the last months there was not a single

attempt on side of SciFace GmbH to contact us and see how to

improve their crippled MuPAD 4.

Not that we cannot expect this; on the contrary, this is a

branch in our decision tree.

The information below is truncated deliberately so SciFace's

GmbH folks would not able to restore the origin of the defect

manifestation.

We do not want any longer to feed SciFace GmbH for free for

them, or, to be more precisce, at our own expense.

.................................................................

ACTUAL: After about 76000 seconds,

Error: Singularity ...

ACTUAL: undefined

ACTUAL: Error: Illegal argument: FAIL ...

ACTUAL: Error: Overflow/underflow in arithmetical operation;

ACTUAL: Error: Illegal argument ...

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

ACTUAL: OUTCOME #1 (at times)

Out of memory

OUTCOME #2 (often)

After about 1500 seconds, "Not Connected"

ACTUAL: OUTCOME #1 After about 8000 seconds,

Error: Illegal argument ...

OUTCOME #2 After about 7500 seconds,

Error: Out of memory

OUTCOME #3 After about 7000 seconds,

"Not Connected"

.................................................................

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;

the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt

the world to himself. Therefore, all progress

depends on the unreasonable man.

-- George Bernard Shaw

.................................................................

We report that during the last months there was not a single

attempt on side of SciFace GmbH to contact us and see how to

improve their crippled MuPAD 4.

Not that we cannot expect this; on the contrary, this is a

branch in our decision tree.

The information below is truncated deliberately so SciFace's

GmbH folks would not able to restore the origin of the defect

manifestation.

We do not want any longer to feed SciFace GmbH for free for

them, or, to be more precisce, at our own expense.

.................................................................

ACTUAL: After about 76000 seconds,

Error: Singularity ...

ACTUAL: undefined

ACTUAL: Error: Illegal argument: FAIL ...

ACTUAL: Error: Overflow/underflow in arithmetical operation;

ACTUAL: Error: Illegal argument ...

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

ACTUAL: Error: Out of memory

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

DESCRIPTION: This is a shameful answer for a trivial task.

Mathematica/Maple/Derive yield a correct output.

ACTUAL: OUTCOME #1 (at times)

Out of memory

OUTCOME #2 (often)

After about 1500 seconds, "Not Connected"

ACTUAL: OUTCOME #1 After about 8000 seconds,

Error: Illegal argument ...

OUTCOME #2 After about 7500 seconds,

Error: Out of memory

OUTCOME #3 After about 7000 seconds,

"Not Connected"

.................................................................

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;

the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt

the world to himself. Therefore, all progress

depends on the unreasonable man.

-- George Bernard Shaw

.................................................................

o Whom It May Concern:

Hot minute news from the VM machine.

As of Jul 11, 2007, we report that we have grounds to think

that we have calculated the definitive MuPAD bug data base.

We keep extending our MuPAD bug list.

All persons and organization interested in MuPAD related

data may wish to track our next messages.

Best wishes,

Vladimir Bondarenko

VM and GEMM architect

Co-founder, CEO, Mathematical Director

http://www.cybertester.com/ Cyber Tester, LLC

http://maple.bug-list.org/ Maple Bugs Encyclopaedia

http://www.CAS-testing.org/ CAS Testing

On May 17, 8:41 pm, Vladimir Bondarenko < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote:

Hot minute news from the VM machine.

As of Jul 11, 2007, we report that we have grounds to think

that we have calculated the definitive MuPAD bug data base.

We keep extending our MuPAD bug list.

All persons and organization interested in MuPAD related

data may wish to track our next messages.

Best wishes,

Vladimir Bondarenko

VM and GEMM architect

Co-founder, CEO, Mathematical Director

http://www.cybertester.com/ Cyber Tester, LLC

http://maple.bug-list.org/ Maple Bugs Encyclopaedia

http://www.CAS-testing.org/ CAS Testing

On May 17, 8:41 pm, Vladimir Bondarenko < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote:

1. MuPAD 4's havoc: What is the model the SciFace GmbH uses?

2. Dr Oliver Kluge, the SciFace GmbH CEO

3. A question to the SciFace GmbH leaders/owners from the #1 world CAS QA engineer

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