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Post by Giftzwer » Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:04:56



Get to map, click on vehicle, watch the game hang for a weirdly long
time while the unit data is populated. Then click on any second vehicle
and - whack! - desktop city.

Every time.

That's two in a row for Battlefront. I'm starting to believe that their
eLicensing is a moot point, since they don't seem to be able to release
anything in a working state.

And I'm just loving some of the tech support posts in their forums.
Lots of problems with multicore systems and nVidia GPUs - but heck, it's
not like 3D game fans gravitate towards dual-core CPUs and nVidia
graphics or anything.

--
Giftzwerg
***
"The country might decide that it prefers, yes, a Republican - say, 9/11
veteran Rudy Giuliani - to a freshman senator who does not instinctively
understand why an American president does not share the honor of his
office with a malevolent clown like Hugo Chavez."
- Charles Krauthammer
 
 
 

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Post by Rob Pollar » Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:29:33


What's your computer's specs? I'm running an Intel DUO 6400 with an nVidia
7900GS 256Mb and the demo works fine. My only issue with it is that they
need to smooth out the camera movement, which is very *** the eyes in
its current state.

Additional info on my setup:
2Gb Ram
Creative Xi-Fi Fatal1ty sound card
nVidia driver version: 94.24
Running on Windows XP SP2 (Vista can kiss my ass)

 
 
 

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Post by Giftzwer » Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:54:39

In article <NEGqi.30684$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,
XXXX@XXXXX.COM says...


Intel Quad, 4GB, dual ATI x1950 512s, Vista 32.

I did update the video drivers to the latest spec ... but I'm certainly
not going to jiggery-poke my system any farther since it runs every
other game I'm using smooth as glass.

--
Giftzwerg
***
"The country might decide that it prefers, yes, a Republican - say, 9/11
veteran Rudy Giuliani - to a freshman senator who does not instinctively
understand why an American president does not share the honor of his
office with a malevolent clown like Hugo Chavez."
- Charles Krauthammer
 
 
 

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Post by Bloodsta » Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:01:21

> Intel Quad, 4GB, dual ATI x1950 512s, Vista 32.

There you go... ATI & Vista...

I saw Vista few days ago (yes, just now) and it looks fabulous... But, I
will not switch to Vista until 2008. Yep.

If I do switch to Vista that would open a *** can of worms... For instance
do TOAW COW works on Vista? Etc...

My friend told me that he have no problem with Vista and games... and then I
saw what he plays:

TITAN QUEST
FLATOUT 2
GTA SAN ANDREAS
NEED FOR SPEED CARBON
NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED
CRASHDAY
DRIVER 3
CALL OF DUTY 2
HALF LIFE 2
HITMAN *** MONEY
SERIOUS SAM 2
FAR CRY
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
SNIPER ELITE
CONSTANTINE
COMMANDOS STRIKE FORCE
CALL OF DUTY
CALL OF DUTY UNITED OFFENSIVE
VIETCONG 2
COLD FEAR
PAINKILLER
QUAKE 4
COMPANY OF HEROES
GOTHIC 3
CALL OF JUAREZ
UNREAL TOURNAMENT 2004
MAX PAYNE
QUAKE 3 ARENA
TOTAL OVERDOSE
SWAT 4
THE SUFFERING
THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK
TOCA RACE DRIVER 2
SCARFACE
THE SIMPSONS
ENTER THE MATRIX
FLATOUT
BATTLEFIELD 2
25 TO LIFE
COLD WAR
F.E.A.R.
ICE AGE 2
OBLIVION
GTR 2
MAFIA
GOTHIC 2
DESPERADOS 1 I 2
CARS
BOILING POINT
RESIDENT EVIL 4

all pretty mainstream titles...
So basically wargames are screwed with Vista if support from developers
stays pathetic.


Mario
 
 
 

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Post by Giftzwer » Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:46:10

In article <f8fen9$gca$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,
XXXX@XXXXX.COM says...

...running every single other game I have without any particular
problem.


Well, TOAW *is* a decade old now, and designed for an OS that's *four*
versions in the computer world's rear-view mirror.

But CM:SF was released *yesterday*, and the producers can hardly ignore
the fact that there's a new OS in town.


That's a nice theory ... massacred by the inconvenient fact that 90% of
people on the Battlefront forum with exactly the same problems as me are
running XP.

And ATI? Shitware that has a problem with such a massively popular
hardware choice is simply beneath contempt. Simply put, if your
software has any issues with an ATI card, you FAIL at programming.

--
Giftzwerg
***
"The country might decide that it prefers, yes, a Republican - say, 9/11
veteran Rudy Giuliani - to a freshman senator who does not instinctively
understand why an American president does not share the honor of his
office with a malevolent clown like Hugo Chavez."
- Charles Krauthammer
 
 
 

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Post by Rob Pollar » Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:09:17

> I saw Vista few days ago (yes, just now) and it looks fabulous... But, I

I had Vista around 4 months ago when I bought a new computer. This was quite
unusual as all my previous machines from the early 90's onwards have been
hand built. But this time economics got the better of me.

I sure I didn't have problems with TOAW in Vista, but I sure did with Squad
Battles and the Panzer Campaign series from HPS (yes that was with
patches...). CM1-3 worked but the mouse feel didn't for some bizzare reason
which meant manual zooming. All the rest of my wargames (and I got quite a
few) seemed to work just fine.

I ditched Vista after around two months. It drove me up the wall with all
its niggling issues. Stuff like, no hotmail in the email client, large
copy-paste operations failing, many games just working wierd or not
performing properly, poor tools like the disk defragger which seemed to have
taken a step backwards. No sound hardware acceleration as some bright spark
in MS decided to remove the HAL in direct sound. The OS taking up almost 1Gb
of my RAM....

Ditched Vista, installed XP (after slipstreaming the disk as mine is old).
All my 3d games suddenly experienced massive FPS improvements including a
certain flight sim from MS which claims 'Runs better in Vista' - Lol If I
wasn't so lazy I'd take their asses to court for false advertising. :)

Going back to XP is the best thing I have done. It was a long and drawn out
descision as I tried to convince myself to hang in there and wait for the
drivers and other issues to sort themselves out. In the end I wrote a list
of the pros and cons of both systems (didn't put frame rate in as I didn't
know until after the upgrade/downgrade (delete as applicable)).

When DX10 games get underway I might have another look see, but until then I
just don't see the point.

RobP
 
 
 

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Post by pproctor6 » Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:27:15

> So basically wargames are screwed with Vista if support from developers

Mario,

Not to *** in, but in case you are interested...

We have tested all of our games on Vista and they work fine. This
includes:

Air *** Task Force
The Star and the Crescent
The Falklands War
Raging Tiger
Armored Task Force
BCT Commander

I will say that, if you don't have Vista yet, you shouldn't make the
switch unless you have to. It is still extremely buggy. For
instance, I tried to share my desktop with the other computers on my
network using normal file sharing. I now have two of every icon on my
desktop at all times and I have to give an administrator password to
add a file to my desktop (one of the most basic things Windows is
supposed to do)!

They have made just about any thing other than running programs from
the OS much harder. Simple things like changing screen resolution or
moving files around on the computer take three times as long as they
used to because the OS doesn't really want you messing with your
computer once it has it set up. Forget about networking or adding a
third party fire wall. You can't possible be trusted with that kind
of responsibility on your own computer!


PAT PROCTOR
President, ProSIM Company
http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

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Post by Giftzwer » Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:56:29

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,
XXXX@XXXXX.COM says...


...which is precisely the same - in every respect - with the procedure
in XP (or Windows 98, for that matter). I mean, come now, right-click
on the desktop, go to Personalize/display settings, change it, bada-
bing, new display settings.


File copy or move operations are similarly identical to their previous
Windows counterparts. Unless, of course, you're talking about
relocating system files or whole executables; that Vista has tightened
down considerably - but it's a feature, not a bug.


"Forget about networking?" Are you just nuts? I'm "networked" in Vista
everywhere I go. They've even added a wonderful tool that lets you flip
from domains to ad-hoc to <whatever> as you like.

If you think Vista won't network, you're doing it wrong.


Nonsense. I'm using F-Secure's firewall, right now. A beta version of
their upcoming business client, no less. Works like a champ.


What is it you'd like to do and can't?

--
Giftzwerg
***
"The country might decide that it prefers, yes, a Republican - say, 9/11
veteran Rudy Giuliani - to a freshman senator who does not instinctively
understand why an American president does not share the honor of his
office with a malevolent clown like Hugo Chavez."
- Charles Krauthammer
 
 
 

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Post by Bloodsta » Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:08:04

> That's a nice theory ... massacred by the inconvenient fact that 90% of

OK, I think that you are right. Software have teething problems and needs
few patches to sort things out.

Joy of PC *** .
 
 
 

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Post by Bloodsta » Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:18:28

> I had Vista around 4 months ago when I bought a new computer. This was

Thank you Rob that's almost exactly what I have been thinking...

Before I had dual boot Win 98 and XP for some problematic games. Vista
doesn't allow dual boot - at least that's what I've heard.

Anyway I don't plan to switch (yet) to Vista but it does look promising.
Once DirectX 10 games becomes available in numbers then it will be right
time. So XP is sufficent for now - I must reinstall everything these days as
my system is really slow from all junk etc...
 
 
 

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Post by Bloodsta » Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:19:40

> Mario,

Hey Pat!

Thank you very much, your opinion on this is invaluable!

Much appreciated,


Mario
 
 
 

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Post by eddysterck » Mon, 30 Jul 2007 02:17:33


That's odd - typing this on a dual boot Win XP - Vista machine :)

Only used Vista for testing COTA on it - ran fine without any problems

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
 
 
 

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Post by Bloodsta » Mon, 30 Jul 2007 02:20:28

> That's odd - typing this on a dual boot Win XP - Vista machine :)

My cousin was wrong then :>
Todays kids and too much FPS... :) He is only waiting for Crysis :)
 
 
 

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Post by Giftzwer » Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:32:09

In article <f8ftsv$81u$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,
XXXX@XXXXX.COM says...

Eddy's correct; Vista is much friendlier with dual (or triple) booting
than any previous MS OS.

--
Giftzwerg
***
"The country might decide that it prefers, yes, a Republican - say, 9/11
veteran Rudy Giuliani - to a freshman senator who does not instinctively
understand why an American president does not share the honor of his
office with a malevolent clown like Hugo Chavez."
- Charles Krauthammer
 
 
 

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Post by Giftzwer » Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:47:20

In article <f8fqb0$2gm$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,
XXXX@XXXXX.COM says...


Here's hoping, though, that Battlefront incorporates the coming patches
into the demo, or makes the demo patch-able, because the demo is
crashing so often - 100% of the time, in fact - that I'm gonna need to
see a *stable* demo running on my system before I pop for the Paradox
version.

From what I see before the demo goes tits-up, the thing looks promising.
The models are just stunning, the interface seems decent[1], and - well,
at least until it totally blows up in my face - the game just *flies* on
my system.



[1] Although why did they do away with the context menu for units?
It's no biggie, but I liked right-clicking to get the unit orders menu.
Does the right mouse button do anything in CM:SF?

--
Giftzwerg
***
"The country might decide that it prefers, yes, a Republican - say, 9/11
veteran Rudy Giuliani - to a freshman senator who does not instinctively
understand why an American president does not share the honor of his
office with a malevolent clown like Hugo Chavez."
- Charles Krauthammer