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mactel anyone ?

Post by someon » Sun, 14 Aug 2005 09:55:41

This would be great although I fear Apple will go to great lengths to
keep it from happening, but hey the best OS (OS X) on 'industry
standard' hardware ! - snip - Imagine if your next Mac cost you only
$300, and ran faster than any G4 or G5 you've ever used.

That future may already be unfolding: Hackers have found a way to bypass
a chip designed to prevent the Mac OS from running on non-Apple PCs,
which are often cheaper than Macs. ,2125,68501,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1
Rob Fruth - Houston, Tx

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Post by Elijah Bal » Sun, 14 Aug 2005 12:51:25

In article <hybLe.429$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,

If it happens you can kiss Apple AND the world's best OS goodbye. Apple
makes money by selling hardware, not operating systems. Kill the
hardware sales and you kill Apple, and OS X. If Apple becomes a software
only company it will be too weak to withstand the onslaught by Microsoft.

Michael Dell's phone rings...

"Mike? This is Bill. Bill Gates. How ya doin'?

MD: "Oh hi, Bill. What can I do for you?

BG: "Well, Mike, I'll be blunt. Either stop shipping machines with OS X
pre-installed or I'll yank your Windows license. Then where will you be?

MD: "Understood Mr. Gates. I'll get right on it. Thanks for taking the
time to call me. Have a nice day. And say hello to Melissa for me, will

BG: "Will do Mike. Gotta go. Bye."

Now how hard is that to understand? Really, how hard?

"There are no significant bugs in our released software that any significant
number of users want fixed." Bill Gates

Source: Focus Magazine, nr.43, pages 206-212, (October 23, 1995)


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Post by Gregory We » Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:51:26

In article <hybLe.429$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,

I don't think it's reasonable to assume that a TPM component is going to
be _the_thing_ that differentiates the real Apple OS X boxes from
commodity PCs. Sure that may happen, but you have to keep in mind that
these are systems (hardware and software) put together a year ahead of
the public release, probably as cheaply as possible, to give developers
a basically stable platform to get ready. I suspect there will be other
differences that are a bit more problematic than an invented reliance on
an separable component.

This comment simply seems naive to me:

| The hack shows that Steve Jobs' company will be turning out machines
| indistinguishable from any other PC, or "white box," said German
| hacker Michael "mist" Steil.
| "Apple wants to avoid the word getting out that (MacIntels) are just
| PCs, and that (OSx86) works on PCs," said Steil.


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"Are You Berry Berry Happy?" song.

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Post by Fetch, Rov » Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:18:13

Apple's OSX for intel is already cracked for use on *ANY* intel PC

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Post by David Magd » Mon, 15 Aug 2005 05:12:39

"Fetch, Rover, Fetch" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > writes:

The developer version is at least. What about the final one? I'm
curious to see (along with everyone else) the design of the new

The main ways that Apple could prevent use on other systems would be
TPM, using Open Boot, or perhaps using EFI. No commodity system use OB
and few currently use EFI. All we know is that Apple will be using
Intel CPUs, everything else is anyone's guess.

David Magda <dmagda at>
Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under
the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well
under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI

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Post by SimBrai » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:39:37

I read this story. I'm wondering how do things like drivers work with this
kind of setup? Say how do you load drivers for your Nvidia graphics card? I
really wish Apple would just make a legitimate OSX for x86 version.