Does MSN Live Messenger 8.0 has a better whiteboard than Messenger 7.5 and netmeeting whiteboard?

Does MSN Live Messenger 8.0 has a better whiteboard than Messenger 7.5 and netmeeting whiteboard?

Post by cfma » Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:26:41


HI all,

I need to use a whiteboard that has at least the following feature:

1. Multiple pages;
2. Save multiple pages at once as a session for later review;
3. Compress images to reduce delay in transmitting large colored bitmaps;
4. Stable connection(the whiteboard won't drop call after a while).

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Here are some drawbacks of netmeeting whiteboard that we are currently use.
We understand that netmeeting whiteboard is kind of old so we are seeking
better alternatives; we don't care about audio/video. We just need
whiteboard.

1. We've found that if we idle(not drawing on the board) for a few minutes,
the whileboard will display "not in a call",
and re-clicking on the "whiteboard" button does not work; we have to exit
netmeeting on both sides and re-launch netmeeting on both sides, then
re-click the "whiteboard" button...

What's wrong with our netmeeting whiteboards, why did they drop?

2. It also suffers from not having compression for transporting bitmaps. If
I copy and paste a bitmap to the whiteboard, it is certain that my partner
has to wait a very long time in order to see the picture on his side.
Sometimes it took too long that the connection seemed to be dead.

We have tested: for the same bitmap, if we save it as a file, then use
Winzip, or WinRAR, the compression ratio is 20-30 times, the file can be
transported with a few seconds. See the problem?

The netmeeting whiteboard does not compress before it transport the bitmap.
That's very bad.

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So we'd like to try out some other alternatives of whiteboard software,
which has multiple pages, and can save the whole session, and has
compression for large bitmaps and has stable connections.

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We have tried those online meeting and web-conferencing service, their
common theme is that selling service is more profitable than selling
software. They charge a monthly fee. The problem is that we don't
intensively use this and paying a fee seems not cost-effective. Also often
times they don't provide multiple pages...

We don't care about/need audio, we don't care about/need video, we only need
whiteboard, a good whiteboard, could anybody recommend a good whiteboard
software for online collaboration?

Thanks a lot!

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We are currently taking a huge pain in trying to get MSN Messenger 7.5
whiteboard work, audio/video all worked; but whiteboard did not work.

We want to ask: if we use MSN Live Messenger 8.0, and make it work
eventually after some painstaking, is the whiteboard a lot better than
netmeeting's whiteboard regarding the several problems we've met in
netmeeting?

One more question: is the core of whiteboard in MSN messenger the Windows
Messenger 5.1? Is this 5.1 the newest version of Windows Messenger, and
hence the newest whiteboard we can use?

Thanks a lot!!!
 
 
 

Does MSN Live Messenger 8.0 has a better whiteboard than Messenger 7.5 and netmeeting whiteboard?

Post by Jonathan K » Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:51:28

reetings,

The whiteboard in Windows Live Messenger, MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger is all the same
thing. There have been no updates.

One thing that falls into the category of what you're looking for is Microsoft OneNote's
Shared Sessions (Live Sharing in 2007) feature. Some info is here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/chris_pratley/archive/2005/02/22/378667.aspx

It has no Messenger integration though and works best for what you're looking for with a
TabletPC.

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Does MSN Live Messenger 8.0 has a better whiteboard than Messenger 7.5 and netmeeting whiteboard?

Post by cfma » Tue, 18 Jul 2006 01:46:38


Looks great! I will give it a try. Thanks a lot for the information.

My remaining questions are:

1. Is OneNote 2007 out? (obviously not, it is dubbed as 2007)
2. What does the Windows Messenger's whiteboard look like? Since I am still
struggling on making it work; I haven't seen it myself. Is it better than
the old netmeeting's whiteboard?
3. Is Windows Messenger 5.1 the latest?
 
 
 

Does MSN Live Messenger 8.0 has a better whiteboard than Messenger 7.5 and netmeeting whiteboard?

Post by Jonathan K » Tue, 18 Jul 2006 03:13:55

Hi,

1. Not yet. Next year. The functionality is in OneNote 2003 today though (after applying
the service pack)
2. The same as Netmeeting's -- it is the same component and executable, they just put it in
a wrapper.
3. Yep.

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Does MSN Live Messenger 8.0 has a better whiteboard than Messenger 7.5 and netmeeting whiteboard?

Post by cfma » Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:27:51


Thanks for your info.

It is really very bad news for me. That's to say, the MSN 7.5 or 8.0 etc.'s
whiteboard will have exactly the same problems as the old netmeeting's
whiteboard does.

Very bad news for me.

So I should give up on MSN 7.5 or 8.0?
 
 
 

Does MSN Live Messenger 8.0 has a better whiteboard than Messenger 7.5 and netmeeting whiteboard?

Post by Jonathan K » Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:05:09

Hi,

Give up in what way? Not really sure I understand your question.

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Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.yqcomputer.com/
Messenger Resources - http://www.yqcomputer.com/
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Does MSN Live Messenger 8.0 has a better whiteboard than Messenger 7.5 and netmeeting whiteboard?

Post by andy » Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:49:19

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