Web-based alternatives to Dreamweaver ???

Web-based alternatives to Dreamweaver ???

Post by Tripeca » Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:23:50


Hi, I'm wondering if there are web-based IDE clients -- sites that let us edit,
publish, and preview websites.

Think of the web-based email clients (yahoo, hotmail, gmail, etc.). These
days you don't need a PC-based client. If you used a web-based email client,
you can access it from any PC and never need to worry about backing up your
data. When you travel, you can visit internet cafes or libraries rather than
lugging along a laptop with Outlook installed on it.

I'd like to find a similar web-based development tool. You know, a site we
can visit that will let us login, edit files, test them, and then publish them
to a live server.

Do such things exist?
 
 
 

Web-based alternatives to Dreamweaver ???

Post by David Stil » Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:30:13


They do exist. GeoCities has one, I think. (It's been a while since
I've looked, so don't quote me on that.) I worked for four years with a
company that provided a custom solution like this for 1000s of clients
(automotive dealers).

Here's the thing: web-based IDEs are EXTREMELY basic. Let me repeat
that. Web-based IDEs are *EXTREMELY* basic. I wouldn't hazard a
percentage breakdown, but all the online web editors I've seen rely heavily
on pre-determined templates and offer you a *** y, tiny fraction of the
power of desktop IDEs.

I'm sure something will hope on this thread and refute me, so let's
bring on the discussion! Bring it on! :)



David
stiller ( at ) quip ( dot ) net

 
 
 

Web-based alternatives to Dreamweaver ???

Post by WildManOfT » Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:35:05

Wiki.

Even if I used it, I sure wouldn't use it from a internet cafe or library as
it could leave you wide open for people to intercept your user Id and
password. Once they have that they could change your site as much as they'd
like.




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Web-based alternatives to Dreamweaver ???

Post by darre » Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:44:04

> Hi, I'm wondering if there are web-based IDE clients -- sites that let us
edit,

I think you're looking for a web content management system. There are
hundreds of them out there.

If you're looking for a true application development IDE, I don't think
there's anything out there as robust as your typical DW or even FP desktop
app. But if you are updating web files, why not just have the IDE on your
machine and use something like webdav for local check-in/check-out of files?

-Darrel
 
 
 

Web-based alternatives to Dreamweaver ???

Post by Alexandru » Sun, 17 Oct 2004 06:25:31


Hi David,

We have a PRETTY powerful editor. Let me say this again - a PRETTY
POWERFUL web editor :)

Check the live property inspector at http://www.yqcomputer.com/

It's very similar to Dreamweaver, but - of course - there are lots of
limitations that we can't overcome.

Still - I think we are in the first line of Visual HTML editors.

Alexandru
 
 
 

Web-based alternatives to Dreamweaver ???

Post by Tripeca » Sun, 17 Oct 2004 06:57:15

Okay, how about we forget WYSIWYG (or WYSIWYW) for the moment... and built-in
previewing... and all the visual IDE stuff...

Let's say all you want is a web-based text editor and file manager. Instead
of checking out a file to your local PC (where you then edit it with DW or
something else), you would check it out to a "scratch" directory online. You'd
never download it to your PC. You'd simple be "moving" it from one place
online to another place online. All your file management and text editing
would occur within your browser.

As for security, https could help. You could also have multiple passwords,
each accessing a different subset of the site. Or fingerprint ID or retinal
scan or ESP or whatever. Well, security is going to be an issue... But
web-based email has the same security issues, right?
 
 
 

Web-based alternatives to Dreamweaver ???

Post by Josh Johns » Sun, 17 Oct 2004 07:38:35

If that's all you want, just SSH into the server and use VI to edit the
HTML. Very secure, and widely available, and you wouldn't have to
"move" the file at all.

- Josh
 
 
 

Web-based alternatives to Dreamweaver ???

Post by Tripeca » Tue, 19 Oct 2004 03:03:19

VI, emacs, etc. would fulfill the text editing part, but what about publishing (uploading a file to another url)?
 
 
 

Web-based alternatives to Dreamweaver ???

Post by Murray *TM » Tue, 19 Oct 2004 03:11:21

Explorer will do that....

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Web-based alternatives to Dreamweaver ???

Post by Josh Johns » Wed, 20 Oct 2004 02:32:30

Why upload it? You can edit in place on the live site, or if that's a
problem, create a copy -> edit -> test -> delete original -> rename copy
to original.

- Josh