advice to a beginner's beginner?

advice to a beginner's beginner?

Post by gomer » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:37:35


Hello everyone, (my first posting)

I'm a long-time mac user who has just picked up Dreamweaver 8. I've read some
of the manual and played around with the app, but that gets boring fast. So I'd
like some suggestions for training alternatives, however brief. I've looked at
the following things, but if someone could offer some brief input about which
of the following directions would be best, I'd appreciate it. My only "web
development" experience to date is my use of Moodle, an open-source course
management package that we use at my school.

First item: There are the self-paced courses offered by the "Macromedia
University". For a flat fee you get a year's worth of those. According to the
FAQs, tho, it seems like I'd have to switch from Firefox/Safari to Netscape to
work with those, and I'm not sure, as a mac user, how much how many of those
courses would actually provide me with. There are a few mac-specific courses,
but overall there are only about 8 dreamweaver-specific courses. maybe not such
a good deal for $99...?

Then there are a couple books offered for sale on the macromedia site, one
with some lessons on an accompanying CD. That one is "Macromedia Dreamweaver 8:
Training form the Source" ($34). The other is "Macromedia Dreamweaver 8 for
Windows and Mac: Visual Quick Start Guide" ($17).

I've also looked at a few of the free online seminars (again, on the
macromedia site), but those don't seem to be directed to a total beginner like
myself. Perhaps I just haven't found the right ones..., but I think they're
directed at experienced users.

Finally, I'm located in Japan, and while I'd really like to pursue this in
English, there are some places around town that offer training/instruction in
web design (dreamweaver is probably available, but I'd have to check). Working
thru it in Japanese would help my language skills, but that would take more
time than it would otherwise. So because of my location, books or online
instruction would seem best.

Any views on the above or alternatives to them would be appreciated.
 
 
 

advice to a beginner's beginner?

Post by Rand » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:48:10

As someone who has wasted a lot of time playing around with design view (
and not even bothering with code view), the only thing I can recommend is to
actually learn basic html and then css. That will help more then any of the
dreamweaver books. Just my personal opinion...I am sure others will voice
theirs too.

Randy

 
 
 

advice to a beginner's beginner?

Post by FatCa » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:01:14

Yo, Go,

The best, most fun, and fastest way of learning web design that I've found
is to create a site for someone or some business using one of
http://www.yqcomputer.com/ 's templates.

Having a real site to work on, even if you're doing it for free, is much
more fun and creative than tutorial exercises, and using one of project
seven's designs and adapting it to your needs will teach you much about how
the whole process works, using Dreamweaver and Fireworks.

Aloha,

Jerry

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advice to a beginner's beginner?

Post by Tim » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:25:34

I'll echo Randy's advice regarding HTML and CSS. Dreamweaver is a powerful
application, but the only way you're going to get the best use out of it is
if you understand the basics of how web pages work. Doing some intensive
study in HTML and CSS is going to benefit you more than application specific
training. Certainly, purchase a study a basic book in Dreamweaver - but
don't bypass the other.

I recommend Elizabeth Castro's HTML for the World Wide Web and Eric Meyer's
Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide. Those two books, along with
online tutorials and this newsgroup (especially, but also others) were the
core of my training, and I suspect I'm not alone in that experience or
something very like it.

tim

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advice to a beginner's beginner?

Post by gomer » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:07:25

Thanks all--that was really quick! And I'll be checking back on this thread
very regularly over the coming hours (it's only four in the afternoon here) and
days, so if there are any other comments/suggestions anyone can offer I'm all
ears. I've got almost a month until a new term starts, and I'd like to make
some significant steps in the coming weeks. (And should I say thanks again!?!.)
 
 
 

advice to a beginner's beginner?

Post by Tim » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:44:47


You're welcome. Happy studying!

tim
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advice to a beginner's beginner?

Post by Tine Mle » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:22:40

You can get a lot of help watching movies from this two great sites
http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ://www.lynda.com/

http://www.yqcomputer.com/
Dreamweaver MX 2004
http://www.yqcomputer.com/
been made for Dreamweaver 8 but I can't find the link.

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advice to a beginner's beginner?

Post by gomer » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:35:46

Tim G,

Thanks for this: "I recommend Elizabeth Castro's HTML for the World Wide Web
and Eric Meyer's
Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide" and also the tutorials on the
site listed in your signature.

I've looked at the source code for pages that I'd like to mimic, and have even
printed those out so that I don't have to look at it on screen and can make a
few notes & marks along the way. Tho the grammar of it seems technical, as a
once-upon-a-time linguist, with some work the kind of rules involved in html
don't seem insurmountable. As for CSS..., well, one step at a time.
 
 
 

advice to a beginner's beginner?

Post by Murray *AC » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:51:27

definitely agree wtih this. The more time you spend on the basics of HTML
and CSS now, the less time you will spend worrying about how to use and
apply DW.

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advice to a beginner's beginner?

Post by kaeth » Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:05:11

Dreamweaver has some page designs in it, you can start with those, but play
around with them so you can see how they work.

Get a hosting account, make a site, ask questions as you go, post it here, get
feedback, modify the site, make another site, repeat, .....

Volunteer to make a site for free, for a friend or a group you belong to.