[usb-storage] usb: drivers/usb/storage/libusual

[usb-storage] usb: drivers/usb/storage/libusual

Post by Matthew Dh » Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:20:05



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Well, I guess it's time for me to comment, then. I have been watching
with great interest.

I have to say, I totally agree that this is a problem that needs solving.
The current situation is a mess....

But, I'm not sure this is much better. It's certainly different, but I
fear that we're going to spend a lot of time explaining to end-users a new
and less-than-totally-obvious system.

Technically, this is much better than what we have. I'm just not sure
about the "end user experience".

And I think I'm totally convinced now that request_module() needs some
serious help. Either it needs to go away entirely, or be replaced by a
helper, such that request_module() gets a module loaded, but module
binding to a device is controlled via another mechanism.

Overall, send it to Andrew's tree. But I'd really like to see it live
there for an extended period of time before going to Linus. And I'd also
like to see some ideas for the final solution, which would apply to HID
devices with the same problem.

I hate solving problems twice. It creates twice as much work for everyone,
including distro folks and end-users. Let's figure this out as a more
generic driver-binding problem for all drivers once and for all.

Matt

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[usb-storage] usb: drivers/usb/storage/libusual

Post by Pete Zaitc » Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:20:03


Devices continue to default to usb-storage, regardless if libusual is
configured. So, no explanations should be necessary at first. Fedora may
be different if we like how it works in Rawhide and let it into a release.
Then I would talk to Karsten about documenting this in Fedora handbook.

Although... I may be missing something about the behaviour of end users.
I thought that what we had before was transparent, but I was wrong.

I have some hopes for Gentoo users to tell me if libusual is workable
actually. They like to try new options as soon as they appear :-)


I think maybe if this use of it gets visible, it may be easier to
implement changes to request_module(), than if I were just mailing
to linux-kernel. Patch always speaks louder than words.

Maybe Keith or Rusty will have a look and bust this to bits, from
the module-init-tools perspective.

-- Pete
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