It's not GNU/Linux - it's jusy LINUX

It's not GNU/Linux - it's jusy LINUX

Post by Marc Perke » Thu, 05 Oct 2006 06:20:11



Ivan - It's not GNU/Linux - it's just LINUX. Time to get the name right.
RMS doesn't get to rename Linux. Linux isn't going to go away just
because they fork the license.


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It's not GNU/Linux - it's jusy LINUX

Post by Adam Henle » Thu, 05 Oct 2006 06:50:06


< ... >

o_O

Well this *is* the Linux kernel mailing list...so yes, the kernel is
called Linux.

RMS wants to take credit for the parts of your complete operating
system breakfast (including GCC et al.) that were developed by the GNU
project. Whether this is wholly unreasonable or not is an exercise for
the reader.
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It's not GNU/Linux - it's jusy LINUX

Post by Neil Brow » Thu, 05 Oct 2006 06:50:08


"Linux" is an operating system kernel. By itself it is pretty
useless.
A thing which is Linux plus lots of libraries and utilities and maybe
a windowing system and a "desktop" is a lot more than "Linux".

It might be Redhat Linux, it might be SuSE Linux. It might be
GNU/Linux. It might be Debian GNU/Linux. It might be KLX (referring
to KDE, Linux and The X11 Windowing System I think). It might be
Ubuntu. But isn't just "Linux".

It was never my understanding that RMS tried to rename the Linux
Kernel as GNU/Linux. Rather he wanted to name the complete system
comprising Linux and some GNU software and X and anything else that
was free as "GNU/Linux". I suspect he has more right than many to
suggest a name for the system seeing how much philosophy and
technology he has contributed.

NeilBrown
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It's not GNU/Linux - it's jusy LINUX

Post by Marc Perke » Thu, 05 Oct 2006 06:50:09


Most of the GNU utilities were just clones of the work the AT&T did when
the C language and the Unix operating system was invented. To clone an
existing product is trivial as compared to coming up with the original
ideas in the first place. RMS didn't invent C, he cloned it. If anything
it should be called AT&T/Linux if you want to give credit to the
innovators. RMS is just a middleman in the process.


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It's not GNU/Linux - it's jusy LINUX

Post by M4y3c » Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:00:19

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El Martes, 3 de Octubre de 2006 4:47 PM, Marc Perkel
escribi

>>>><< ...>> >>>> >>>>> Ivan - It's not GNU/Linux - it's just LINUX. Time to >>>>> get the name right. RMS doesn't get to rename Linux. >>>>> Linux isn't going to go away just because they fork >>>>> the license. >>>> >>>> o_O >>>> >>>> Well this *is* the Linux kernel mailing list...so yes, >>>> the kernel is called Linux. >>>> >>>> RMS wants to take credit for the parts of your complete >>>> operating system breakfast (including GCC et al.) that >>>> were developed by the GNU project. Whether this is >>>> wholly unreasonable or not is an exercise for the >>>> reader. >> >> Most of the GNU utilities were just clones of the work >> the AT&T did when the C language and the Unix operating >> system was invented. To clone an existing product is >> trivial as compared to coming up with the original ideas >> in the first place. RMS didn't invent C, he cloned it. If >> anything it should be called AT&T/Linux if you want to >> give credit to the innovators. RMS is just a middleman in >> the process.

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It's not GNU/Linux - it's jusy LINUX

Post by Chase Vent » Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:00:21


Linus didn't invent the UNIX syscall interface either, but I think he
deserves a hell of a lot of credit for doing a good job making an
implementation of it.

I fail to see how this conversation thread could possibly be considered
even remotely productive. Can I kindly ask you to stop attacking RMS and
the FSF on LKML?

Thanks,
Chase
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It's not GNU/Linux - it's jusy LINUX

Post by Hua Zhon » Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:10:10

> Most of the GNU utilities were just clones of the work the

Since we've got to this point, let's call it AT&T/Unix.

Hua

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It's not GNU/Linux - it's jusy LINUX

Post by Patrick Dr » Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:20:09


Neither would exist without Alexander Graham Bell, and even had a mother.

Let's call it Alexander Graham Bell's Mom.

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It's not GNU/Linux - it's jusy LINUX

Post by Patrick Mc » Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:20:09


Wow, this may be the first "yo momma" insult ever told on the LKML.

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It's not GNU/Linux - it's jusy LINUX

Post by Patrick Dr » Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:20:12


Not intended as an insult, just my lame attempt at humor...

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It's not GNU/Linux - it's jusy LINUX

Post by Jan Engelh » Fri, 06 Oct 2006 05:20:18


I have to object.

Linux (kernel) plus a static standalone userspace binary -- 'enough' for
embedded applications. It does not need GNU in it (with the exception
of the kernel's license, GPL, of course).


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