lost icons on some programs in start menu entries

lost icons on some programs in start menu entries

Post by Robert M J » Sat, 02 Aug 2003 19:25:03


The icons on SOME of the programs in my start menu have disappeared and
been replaced with the default white box with blue border. (Including
the one for msdos prompt)

If I go to C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\ and right click on the entry
with the problem - & select properties - then the properties box is also
showing the wrong icon.
If I then click "change icon" button, the display shows the usual range
of icons with the proper normal icon highlighted. I then select it,
click OK and Apply - the icon on the properties box changes to match the
change - but the icon for the actual folder entry does not change in the
folder view or on the start menu itself.

This occurred I think, after doing a system temp file clean up that I
have used many times before without this particular problem. (Langa List
cleanall.bat)

Advice appreciated! Many thanks.
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lost icons on some programs in start menu entries

Post by glee » Sat, 02 Aug 2003 20:09:18

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


Increase the size of your icon cache.
Download the attached Registry file, maxicon.reg, scan it for viruses as you should with any download, then right-click the file, click "Merge" on the menu that appears, and OK to the confirmation message.

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lost icons on some programs in start menu entries

Post by Gary S. Te » Sat, 02 Aug 2003 20:21:18

1. Go to http://www.yqcomputer.com/ #icons, download the fix and run it.

2. After making sure that "Show All Files" is enabled in Folder Options, View
tab, use Find|Files & Folders to locate ShellIconCache (no extension). Delete
it. Reboot.

3. While I can't say it had anything to do with the problem, I strongly suggest
you stop using that cleanall.bat file. See my article, "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is
and why you need it.", instead, and realize that outside of TEMP and TIF files,
which should really only be deleted in the manner(s) and under the conditions I
describe, and, of course, the Recycle Bin, very little else *needs* to be, or
even *should* be "cleaned up" in Windows 98.

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lost icons on some programs in start menu entries

Post by Robert M J » Sat, 02 Aug 2003 20:49:55


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Thanks for that. But the reg files haven't made any difference. I am
still having a lot of icons missing in the actual start menu and start
menu folder view.

If it is any help - this problem is ONLY in the Start menu - there is
nowhere else (including desktop) where I can find any problem with
icons.
If I follow a start menu entry to the target and then "open container" -
the icons in the target folder are fine.
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lost icons on some programs in start menu entries

Post by Gary S. Te » Sat, 02 Aug 2003 21:31:35

ell, if you included the deletion of ShellIconCache in that procedure, then I'm
thinking it's a Registry Issue, and you might try a Restore if you have a backup
that pre-dates the problem. It certainly has that flavor about it, now that you
pin it down to only the Start Menu.

If a backup isn't available, I'm not really sure where to even begin looking for
a registry fix. Other than the KB. And that would be a truly nightmarish thing
to search for.

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lost icons on some programs in start menu entries

Post by Robert M J » Sat, 02 Aug 2003 21:45:09

ary S. Terhune wrote:
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Okay thanks for that.
I also did a DirectX update from Windows update site recently.

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lost icons on some programs in start menu entries

Post by Gary S. Te » Sat, 02 Aug 2003 22:15:05

hat will make a Registry Restore tricky, unless you once again run DX Update
afterwards. Tread carefully...

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Post by Robert M J » Sat, 02 Aug 2003 22:39:36

ary S. Terhune wrote:
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I'm going to live with it, and try re entering the progs in the Start
menu gradually. It's no big deal but irritating.

The clean up program is one I have used for a long time, and I know what
it does and doesn't do. I also have a line in my startup files which
deletes any existing copy of shelliconcache at bootup.

I will tidy up my desktop and rationalise My Documents which both have a
lot of sub folders - see if that is the critical thing.


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Post by Robert M J » Sat, 02 Aug 2003 23:15:49

ary S. Terhune wrote:
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I can change the icon to something else even in the same "list" and that
will take, but the icon I used to have, although showing in the same
list, will not show either in the General tab of the pif box or in the
start menu itself. When I go to the actual program entry target, some of
those icons are also missing - for example MSWord. Weird.

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lost icons on some programs in start menu entries

Post by Hugh Candl » Sun, 03 Aug 2003 03:01:21


Robert M Jones < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >



You need to run the REG change that Glen gave you,
which I see you did.

You also need to delete the ShellIonCache file,
as Gary stated.

You also need to reboot. The kicker is that
you probably need to reboot twice before
the ShellIonCache file will be recreated.
That was my experience.

Another thing I discovered is that the ShellIonCache file
will NOT be recreated if you restart the computer
using the Desktop shortcut technique which has been
posted here by many people, myself included.

I had to use the Start button to Shutdown
(I can never write that without rolling my eyes).
 
 
 

lost icons on some programs in start menu entries

Post by Gary S. Te » Sun, 03 Aug 2003 04:44:40

If you read the entire thread, Hugh, especially between the lines, you'll
discover that Ron is overly fond of automated "cleanup" techniques--which I
suspect are at the root of his problem(s).

I have, frankly, lost interest in trying to diagnose this case. Not unlike an
over-clocker complaining about an unstable system.

"Doctor, Doctor! It hurts when I do *this*!"
"Well, stop *doing* that!"

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Post by Hugh Candl » Sun, 03 Aug 2003 14:28:59


I

Aha, the game's afoot, my dear Holmes!

unlike an

Wait a minute. I'm the Doctor, here.


But Doctor, it f-e-e-l-s so good to delete all those files
and clear out all that lovely space. Now I have 74 GB
of free space instead of only 73.8.

Lock and load.........
 
 
 

lost icons on some programs in start menu entries

Post by Gary S. Te » Sun, 03 Aug 2003 14:59:51

LOL! Our usual TV fare on this night is USA Network's "Crime Friday"...

But this is sooo much more fun!

Hope Robert will forgive my brusqueness. I've been splitting my day between this
newsgroup and dogs in mourning (over the wee-hours departure of a daughter, back
to college), an air-conditioner that didn't like starting until I got a guy over
here to install another capacitor this afternoon... Or is that condenser?..
Whatever, it gives the new, tight compressor an extra kick to get it started.

Then there was the wife returning home from the long trip to the airport with a
migraine, and complaining that not even a mini-shopping spree had managed to
cure her blues... I got a few shirts and a camera tripod out of it, though.

Then, this evening, my in-laws called from Kamloops, B.C., to report that a
wildfire being whipped by 40MPH winds had sprung up and forced the rapid
evacuation of their suburb--by boat on the river in their back yard, since the
highway was cut--and chances are they will lose the family home, major machine
shop and all...Still no word...

Oh... And I've been trying to install Windows Server 2003, the first time for
me, on the most cantankerous machine in my arsenal... Gonna give up on that one
for the evening.

Sorry, Robert, it's not *all* your fault, <g>.

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Post by PCR » Sun, 03 Aug 2003 15:33:58

The clean up program is one I have used for a long time, and I know
what
| it does and doesn't do. I also have a line in my startup files which
| deletes any existing copy of shelliconcache at bootup.

That could be the problem. If, as Candlin says below, it takes two
reboots to regenerate a deleted ShellIconCache, then you must let it
live that long. Likely, the cache is... geez, I don't want to figure
it... but let it live through two reboots! Those reboots must go through
the "START, Shut Down" screen-- not through a shortcut.

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"Robert M Jones"
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| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| > That will make a Registry Restore tricky, unless you once again run
| > DX Update afterwards. Tread carefully...
| >
| > *Recommended Help Sites*
| > http://www.dts-l.org
| > http://www.mvps.org
| > http://www.aumha.org
| >
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| > http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=newswhelp
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| >
| > "Robert M Jones"
| > < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in
| > message news:e4KV% XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
| >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| >>> Well, if you included the deletion of ShellIconCache in that
| >>> procedure, then I'm thinking it's a Registry Issue, and you might
| >>> try a Restore if you have a backup that pre-dates the problem. It
| >>> certainly has that flavor about it, now that you pin it down to
only
| >>> the Start Menu.
| >>>
| >>> If a backup isn't available, I'm not really sure where to even
begin
| >>> looking for a registry fix. Other than the KB. And that would be a
| >>> truly nightmarish thing to search for.
| >>>
| >>> *Recommended Help Sites*
| >>> http://www.dts-l.org
| >>> http://www.mvps.org
| >>> http://www.aumha.org
| >>>
| >>> How to Use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups
| >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=newswhelp
| >>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
| >>>
| >>> "Robert M Jones"
| >>> < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in
| >>> message news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
| >>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| >>>>> 1. Go to http://aumha.org/regfiles.php#icons, download the fix
and
| >>>>> run it.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> 2. After making sure that "Show All Files" is enabled in Folder
| >>>>> Options, View tab, use Find|Files & Folders to locate
| >>>>> ShellIconCache (no extension). Delete it. Reboot.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> 3. While I can't say it had anything to do with the problem, I
| >>>>> strongly suggest you stop using that cleanall.bat file. See my
| >>>>> article, "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it.",
instead,
| >>>>> and realize that outside of TEMP and TIF files, which should
| >>>>> really only be deleted in the manner(s) and under the conditions
I
| >>>>> describe, and, of course, the Recycle Bin, very little else
| >&
 
 
 

lost icons on some programs in start menu entries

Post by Hugh Candl » Sun, 03 Aug 2003 18:11:43


between this
daughter, back

Me too, me too. Son, off to Disneyland. 5 am.
Good grief, that's only 3 hours from now.

condenser?..
started.

Dryer here. Vent got blocked. Burned out the motor.

with a

Check. Above the right eye.

though.

You got me there. Shopping? What's that?
a
since the
machine

I just lost my humor. That is tragic. I am so sorry.
for
that one

The first time I did it, it was a cinch. The 2nd time, fo the practice,
I couldn't get it to take. I think I must have gone over the top
of an NT Workstation installation the first time, but tried
a clean install the second. So this must be an Upgrade disk?


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