How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by MEB » Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:06:22


This is a long post to collect issues relating to uninstalling Office [2000
specifically, though it could be modified for other versions and programs]
necessary for future referencing.
PLEASE do not quote or include this post in its entirety in any answers!!
CUT/CLIP what sections you are responding to from this [or the prior
discussions] when posting your input.

SUMMARY of prior discussions [Hopefully BAP and BC will use this discussion
for further activities]:

Two separate discussions were had in this group relating to the inability
to remove Office 2000 SR1 or correct errors occurring. The first discussion
was unsuccessful with correction of issues and/or removal.

As the poster [BAP] did not have the CDROM(s) for Office 2000, but had
CD-ROMs for Office Pro 2000, it was determined [in the second discussion,
and I think, suggested in the first] that the best recourse was to uninstall
the standard edition, and replace it with the Pro version. It could NOT be
accomplished using the Office un-installation routine in the original
installation.

A poster [BC] created an un-installation/cleanup routine for BAP to use,
which I looked at and thought might work.
MY ERROR was to presume BAP would restart the computer [thereby refreshing
the registry] after each step. There are now errors and issues which need to
be addressed. I apologize to BAP for my failure to direct the restarts
should be used.

Here was the original uninstall/cleaning routine which was established:

Subject: Re: Gary S. Terhune - RE:MS Office 2000 SR-1
Date: 6 Jan 2007 18:22:09 -0800

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FYI:

I used a spare PC that had Windows 98 without
Office installed (there *are* alternatives after all)
and ran through a couple of cycles of installing
and removing Office 2K Pro by manually wiping
it out.

1) The first issue was that the Freeware version
of JV16 didn't even have Office 2000 entries in the
program list. So as an alternative I downloaded
CCleaner from here:
http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner
[I added: JV has an ignore list or lists, Office and/or components are
listed:
C:\Program Files\jv16 PowerTools\Settings\Ignore\Reported by users.dat -
which you can view or edit with a text editor or create your own.
To allow JV removal would require removing Office AND the individual progs
from the ignore list,, or so it seems.]

Note: when installing, uncheck all but the fist
2 options

Before running CCleaner, go into C:\Program
Files and delete the Microsoft Office folder.

2) Now run CCleaner. The "Fix Issues" option
is what needs to be run, but there's no harm in
doing a little cleaning up beforehand with the
main "Run Cleaner" function (uncheck "Cookies"
if you want to retain login info for web sites.)

Click on "Fix All Selected Issues" and make a
backup copy of the registry when prompted.

Select
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by Don Philli » Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:53:26


[2000

Will you not get much more expert advice in one
of the 100+ NGs MS maintains for the Office suite?
MS probably no longer supports Office 2000 but
its NGs continue, and that is the place to look for
special knowledge. None of the quoted material
seems peculiar to Win98.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by MEB » Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:45:16

Geeees, I love it when someone posts without thinking or checking what
they're posting against..

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but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
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|
| > This is a long post to collect issues relating to uninstalling Office
| [2000
| > specifically, though it could be modified for other versions and
programs]
| > necessary for future referencing.
|
| Will you not get much more expert advice in one
| of the 100+ NGs MS maintains for the Office suite?
| MS probably no longer supports Office 2000 but
| its NGs continue, and that is the place to look for
| special knowledge. None of the quoted material
| seems peculiar to Win98.
| --
| Don Phillipson
| Carlsbad Springs
| (Ottawa, Canada)
|
|
|
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by QkFQ » Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:31:01

What a relief, MEB! I had been spending considerable amount of time
collecting issues, suggestions, answers from the replies to the original and
subsequent post regarding Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Standard and had several
pages almost ready for posting, but I am glad that you came thru with your
recap that, I am sure, would be more to the point than mine would have been.
Thank you!

The Office Applications, following the installation of MS Office 2000 Pro,
continue to perform as explained in my last reply to your questions.
To this point, I have not attempted to follow BC's suggestion for cleaning
up my Registry. I am ready to do so, however, as my confidence grows that I
won't mess up the timing and progression of things to do, avoiding the
dont's.

Your latest comments:
SRCLR40.DLL is Microsoft Jet Briefcase Reconciler Library [my present
version is 4.00.2927.2], to partially address BAP's listed error at 3. per my
questions.
***
Hopefully this would prompt for answers that could cure rror 1904 - Module
C:\Windows\System\MSRCLR40.DLL had failed to register. HResult-2147023739.
Contact your Support Personnel

Your next comment:
Note that BAP's registry is filled with old entrees which need removed, and
is likely too large for a successful /fix /opt using scanreg unless they are
removed [hence the need to clean the registry first].
***

By [hence the need to clean the registry first], I assume you mean to clean
the registry by running CCleaner, as BC suggests with the following:
>> 1) CCleaner should always give you a backup option when >> you pick Fix All Selected issues. >> >> 2) I would purge anything CCleaner sees as an issue. It's >> a very conservative registry cleaner. >> >> 3) To restore the registry files backed up with regback.bat >> simply means copying the contents of the regback folder, >> especially system.dat and user.dat, into the c:\windows >> folder, overwriting what's already there. You would have >> to use the attrib command to unhide and unprotect the >> active system and user dat files first. The easiest way >> would be to just rename the c:\windows\regback folder >> that was already created to something like regback1 or >> such. Regback.bat will recreate a new regback folder, >> make another copy of the system files, and unprotect >> and unhide the registry files as well. >> >> I would make another backup of the existing system >> files before reusing an older backup. >> >> Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best >> you can, you can use a Microsoft trick to mildly >> optimize the registry: >> >> a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter) >> >> b) Enter: smartdrv >> (optional, for speed) >> >> c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt

****

MEB, thank you again, for your work!
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by MEB » Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:55:06



"BAP" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message
news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
| What a relief, MEB! I had been spending considerable amount of time
| collecting issues, suggestions, answers from the replies to the original
and
| subsequent post regarding Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Standard and had
several
| pages almost ready for posting, but I am glad that you came thru with your
| recap that, I am sure, would be more to the point than mine would have
been.
| Thank you!

None needed, but YW anyway. It was started in this news group in two other
threads, we should be able to end it here successfully.
Hopefully, I used only the most needed parts so the issues can be resolved.

|
| The Office Applications, following the installation of MS Office 2000 Pro,
| continue to perform as explained in my last reply to your questions.
| To this point, I have not attempted to follow BC's suggestion for cleaning
| up my Registry. I am ready to do so, however, as my confidence grows that
I
| won't mess up the timing and progression of things to do, avoiding the
| dont's.
|
| Your latest comments:
| ?MSRCLR40.DLL is Microsoft Jet Briefcase Reconciler Library [my present
| version is 4.00.2927.2], to partially address BAP's listed error at 3. per
my
| questions.
| ***
| Hopefully this would prompt for answers that could cure "Error 1904 -
Module
| C:\Windows\System\MSRCLR40.DLL had failed to register. HResult-2147023739.
| Contact your Support Personnel".

Let's see if the Shell and other related MVPs, or someone else, provides a
response for this.

|
| Your next comment:
| Note that BAP's registry is filled with old entrees which need removed,
and
| is likely too large for a successful /fix /opt using scanreg unless they
are
| removed [hence the need to clean the registry first].
| ***
|
| By [hence the need to clean the registry first], I assume you mean to
clean
| the registry by running CCleaner, as BC suggests with the following:
|
| > 1) CCleaner should always give you a backup option when
| > you pick Fix All Selected issues.
| >
| > 2) I would purge anything CCleaner sees as an issue. It's
| > a very conservative registry cleaner.

CCleaner is conservative, however, some programs may have modified the
registry [which may or may not show in the cleaner], which probably should
not be removed. I suggest "may or may not be", related to prior issues which
indicated improper and/or removed registry entries interferring with the
Office uninstallation/installation which indicates other potential issues.

For instance: Running ccleaner on my system turns up a number of entries,
one of which is related to Nero Burning Rom for its language libraries, as
missing shared dlls. However Nero accesses these keys IN CASE there is a
language change. Removing them MIGHT create a program error issue. So this
type of entry [for other programs] may NOT be advisable to remove.

Another relates to createcd50.exe [Adaptec driver for WMPlayer in \common
files\Adaptec] {I post this relationship here, and for another thread
related to CDROM problems, hopefully someone will pick up on what it means}.

Another: If your running SpywareBlaster and/or Spybot S&D; ActiveX entries
may appear which have been disabled. Microsoft may have disabled some of its
own entries as well.

Another relates to the tshoot [trouble shooter/help issues] which was
disabled by Microsoft for security
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by Bill in Co » Sat, 20 Jan 2007 07:07:12


<snip>
it

Wait a minute, MEB. Are you saying that using "scanreg /fix /opt" has
*actually* removed some entries by mistake? Have you actually seen that
happen? If so, can you be more specific (if you happen to recall) what it
was, for example?


though
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by BC » Sat, 20 Jan 2007 07:30:11


MS doesn't do "expert" advice that deviates
from their standard advice regardless if it's
applicable or not. This means that if you have
an issue that a standard MS procedure can't
or won't fix, too bad.

-BC
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by MEB » Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:59:25



"Bill in Co." < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message
news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
| MEB wrote:
| > "BAP" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message
| >>>
| <snip>
| >
| > The below should be used only AFTER you have carefully cleaned your
| > registry and found no errors, or errors which might be corrected BY
using
| > this technique, as final cleanup/compaction. The present registry is too
| > large and with apparently too many invalid entries for accurate usage.
If
| it
| > were not so, then this might be a good way to do "house cleaning".
| > Moreover, it sometimes removes entries from the registry by "mistake"
| > [doesn't recognize them properly and removes them] so this technique
also
| > needs to be used with caution.
|
| Wait a minute, MEB. Are you saying that using "scanreg /fix /opt" has
| *actually* removed some entries by mistake? Have you actually seen
that
| happen? If so, can you be more specific (if you happen to recall) what
it
| was, for example?
|

If I remember correctly, and I admit to NOT having done this recently, one
issue that pops into mind [however accurate] revolve around Adobe products
and/or was it Macromedia; [other from decaying memory] with a couple of
programs designed within the last four or so years designed for both XP and
Win98, e.g., the hives are allowed more information within them than the
registry. The entries were apparently too large for the recommended registry
size and either removed or shortened, or otherwise not recognized/handled
correctly. After using the scanreg /fix and /opt the programs errored.
After all, that is apparently part of what is checked during the /fix
usage, invalid entries. What does scanreg apparently check against for
"invalid",, Microsoft recommendations and known entries.
This was, if I remember correctly, also an issue and even more severe, with
the even older regedit fix/compact routine which used to be recommended,
though somewhat corrected using scanreg.

For whatever the reasoning, I stopped using that routine due to errors
caused by the routine. Hence, began searching for and testing of other
programs to [again] handle those issues with relative safety. Back to manual
editing, or tools which showed potential issues from which to work.

To me, it is a "last ditch, if all else fails", way to achieve a
potentially stable registry, and that's about what its worth.

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Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
_______________

|
| >>> Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best you
| >>> can, you can use a Microsoft trick to mildly optimize the registry:
| >>>
| >>> a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)
| >>>
| >>> b) Enter: smartdrv
| >>> (optional, for speed)
| >>>
| >>> c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt
| >>
| >> ****
| >>
| >&
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by QkFQ » Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:41:00

Your observation, MEB:
Note that BAP's registry is filled with old entrees which need removed,
and is likely too large for a successful /fix /opt using scanreg unless they
are removed [hence the need to clean the registry first]".

urrently, my USER.DAT is 1.57 MB. SYSTEM.DAT is 10.1 MB.

BC's step-by-step suggestions:
I would make another backup of the existing system files before reusing an
older backup.
Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best you can, you can use a
Microsoft trick to mildly optimize the registry:
a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)
b) Enter: smartdrv (optional, for speed)
c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt
This will rebuild your registry files.

***MEB, BC....this is what transpired:
followed the steps, as suggested, but the command scanreg /fix /opt
stopped at 89%, before it was interrupted by this error: indows found an
error in your System files and was unable to fix the problem. Try deleting
some files to free up disk space on your Window Drive. If that doesn
work, then you will need to install Windows to a new Directory. Does indow Driverefer to Windows Folder?
I re-booted and explored the Windows folder. As one would expect, there are
plenty of folders and files, but not all readily identifiable as to their
source, need or purpose.
For my Windows Folder, its Properties shows its size at 3.18GB, containing
11,361 Files and 985 Folders. Among them, are several entries that appear to
be related to installed games. In addition, there are several Folders named
Wcm and Wcm001 thru Wcm007. I explored each with these results:
Wcm: 27 files - 3.11MB - 09/30/2001.
Wcm.001: 9 files - 1.43MB - 01/07/2004
Wcm.002: 1 files - 24KB - 01/19/2004
Wcm.003: 89 files - 14.2MB - 02/21/2004
Wcm.004: 89 files - 14.2MB - 02/24/2004
Wcm.005: 7 files - 1.82 - 05/20/2004
Wcm.006: 1 file - 24KB - 05/20/2004
Wcm.007: 89 files - 15.5MB - 05/24/2004
Is there a reason for keeping these Folders?
There are familiar Applications that I could possibly delete, but I have no
idea about what else I could do to satisfy the need expressed by scanreg /fix
/opt.
I am currently reviewing Gary, Glee and Badour views on the subject,
posted in late November of 2006. My inclination, at this point, is not to
start a new thread within your Recap and proceed with caution with further
activities on the subject matter.
Thank you, MEB,BC and all for any additional suggestion!
***
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by Rick Chauv » Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:50:06


"BAP" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message
news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM

Yes that is correct it's the sum of the user.dat and system.dat
Many times scanreg /fix or /opt will fail when the registry reaches 8mb or
more, however, some people have successfully ran a *.dat file total over
that and have ran scanreg with no apparent problems; I would personally not
want to though.
However, in the first place in no way will these /fix /opt features remove
your office installs now errant registry entries - that's not what it was
designed to do.

BAP,

In an effort and wanting to be of help to you which I know that I could, I
went back to read a few previous posts, but as I tried to read back from
October and follow the flow of discussions with All of these many many many
things that you did in the meantime to try and resolve your problem, I can
see at this point honestly it may be so much quicker and take less time
(than you've already spent for sure) for you to just reinstall Windows
itself - and going forward doing it with a new mindset this time.

(before I say anything more though I would be remiss in not saying that in
the first place everyone should use backup partitioning imaging software,
and as well a professional registry/file tracking system to keep track of
each install or at least a timeperiod, which if done in the first place*
..then the uninstall of your O2K would be a one click in 30 seconds Simple!
or, restoring the OS partition to your backup of a time before would be a
few clicks & few minutes simple..)

Now back to the subject at hand, looking at everything that you have done
since you first posted in Oct and putting it in perspective, with the
running of whatever third party cleanup programs, which, in no way in
heaven can ANY of them duplicate a true uninstall of all '''41,142'''
registry add/replace changes that the O2K makes! (that's right you read
that number correctly) as well as the hundreds of file changes where many
of them replace original OS file versions; not to mention now that you've
installed O2K pro on-top of that which now adds its own, and registry
rewrites the old differently, etc, etc, etc... now it's more than anyone
bargained for (without professional registry tracking or backup partition
imaging) to be able to set your aright 'in an accurate true sense'.

IMHO at this point in time with all what you have subsequently done in the
meantime, to now come to any type of clean outcome that you will not wonder
about are there any negative impacts that was mistakenly done to your OS's
installation in the interim - is not so easily possible.

My advice is that it's simpler and more efficient and in the long run way,
for your own piece of mind, is to reinstall the OS from scratch giving you
'fresh opportunities' to make everything else the way you always wanted and
to have done it in a software-wise virgin way going forward.

~~~~~~.

I do have the Office 2001 SR1 CD and All of the updates after it (updates
as of 11/2004 anyway)

I also do have an in-depth professional tracking results of all that the
File/Registry changes that are made from a complete install of it all, of
which its Registry changes are Substantial I must say @ 41+ thousand
entries that have been made!... ..it's actually many times more that any
known Symantec product ever/even makes <sigh>

I really wanted to be able to be of help to solve your issue which by now
has grown
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by BC » Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:22:50


> Note that BAP's registry is filled with old entrees which need removed, >> and is likely too large for a successful /fix /opt using scanreg unless they >> are removed [hence the need to clean the registry first]". >> >> urrently, my USER.DAT is 1.57 MB. SYSTEM.DAT is 10.1 MB. >> >> BC's step-by-step suggestions: >> I would make another backup of the existing system files before reusing an> > older backup.> > Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best you can, you can use a> > Microsoft trick to mildly optimize the registry:> > a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)> > b) Enter: smartdrv (optional, for speed)> > c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt> > This will rebuild your registry files.> >> > ***MEB, BC....this is what transpired:> > followed the steps, as suggested, but the command scanreg /fix /opt> > stopped at 89%, before it was interrupted by this error: indows found an> > error in your System files and was unable to fix the problem. Try deleting> > some files to free up disk space on your Window Drive. If that doesn> > work, then you will need to install Windows to a new Directory.>
>....

That's a poorly written error message -- what is
actually the case is that your registry, System.dat
to be precise, is currently too large for Scanreg to
fix and rebuild it.

The only way to fix this, aside from just freshly
reinstalling everything on your PC from scratch,
including the OS, is to reduce the size of the
registry enough so that Scanreg won't *** on
it. As another poster has noted, Microsoft Office
is notorious for adding an insane amount of entries
to the registry.

If you've already installed your Office 2K Pro, uninstall
it, run CCleaner, and then see if you run Scanreg
/opt /fix. If that works, then reinstall Office 2K.

If this doesn't work or you hadn't yet installed Office
2K, you can try using a more aggressive registry
cleaner, but be sure to make a backup of the
registry before doing this. I've heard that RegSeeker
is the best of the "aggressive" free registry cleaners,
but I can't personally vouch for it. I also heard you
may have to run it a few times for a more thorough
cleaning. Here is a link to it:
http://www.yqcomputer.com/

Then again, if your PC is otherwise working OK,
it may not be worth worrying about having a huge
registry filled with garbage entries -- it may be
aethetically bothersome, but if you don't really see
while using your PC, well...

-BC
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by MEB » Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:30:46



"BAP" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message
news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
| Your observation, MEB:
| ?"Note that BAP's registry is filled with old entrees which need removed,
| and is likely too large for a successful /fix /opt using scanreg unless
they
| are removed [hence the need to clean the registry first]".
|
| ?Currently, my USER.DAT is 1.57 MB. SYSTEM.DAT is 10.1 MB.
|
| BC's step-by-step suggestions:
| ?"I would make another backup of the existing system files before reusing
an
| older backup.
| Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best you can, you can use a
| Microsoft trick to mildly optimize the registry:
| a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)
| b) Enter: smartdrv (optional, for speed)
| c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt
| This will rebuild your registry files.
|
| ***MEB, BC....this is what transpired:
| ?I followed the steps, as suggested, but the command scanreg /fix /opt
| stopped at 89%, before it was interrupted by this error: "Windows found an
| error in your System files and was unable to fix the problem. Try deleting
| some files to free up disk space on your Window Drive. If that doesn't
| work, then you will need to install Windows to a new Directory."
| Does "Window Drive" refer to Windows Folder?
| I re-booted and explored the Windows folder. As one would expect, there
are
| plenty of folders and files, but not all readily identifiable as to their
| source, need or purpose.
| For my Windows Folder, its Properties shows its size at 3.18GB, containing
| 11,361 Files and 985 Folders. Among them, are several entries that appear
to
| be related to installed games. In addition, there are several Folders
named
| Wcm and Wcm001 thru Wcm007. I explored each with these results:
| Wcm: 27 files - 3.11MB - 09/30/2001.
| Wcm.001: 9 files - 1.43MB - 01/07/2004
| Wcm.002: 1 files - 24KB - 01/19/2004
| Wcm.003: 89 files - 14.2MB - 02/21/2004
| Wcm.004: 89 files - 14.2MB - 02/24/2004
| Wcm.005: 7 files - 1.82 - 05/20/2004
| Wcm.006: 1 file - 24KB - 05/20/2004
| Wcm.007: 89 files - 15.5MB - 05/24/2004
| Is there a reason for keeping these Folders?

Gosh, wish I could advise for those. Searching Google finds several
potential creators:
web page conversion programs;
Works;
data base conversion programs;
WordPerfect;
web portal,
each MAY BE creating temporary folders during usage, but I could find
nothing specific for recommendation.

| There are familiar Applications that I could possibly delete, but I have
no
| idea about what else I could do to satisfy the need expressed by scanreg
/fix
| /opt.

The scanreg techique, IMO, should only be used as a "well, nothing else
worked" fix. As Rick presented, it will not achieve what you actually want
accomplished, and may do more harm.

| I am currently reviewing Gary's, Glee's and Badour's views on the subject,
| posted in late November of 2006. My inclination, at this point, is not to
| start a new thread within your Recap and proceed with caution with further
| activities on the subject matter.
| Thank you, MEB,BC and all for any additional suggestion!
| ***
|

As you noted, there are many entries found which you recognize as
removable, this is what you should be doing as I previously presented.


As no one answered your prior enquiry regarding the error relating to
Office:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279223/en-us - You receive two "Error 1904:
Module <filen
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by Bill in Co » Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:10:52


removed, >>> and is likely too large for a successful /fix /opt using scanreg unless
they >>> are removed [hence the need to clean the registry first]". >>> >>> urrently, my USER.DAT is 1.57 MB. SYSTEM.DAT is 10.1 MB. >>> >>> BC's step-by-step suggestions: >>> I would make another backup of the existing system files before
reusing>>>> an older backup.>>>> Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best you can, you can use
a>>>> Microsoft trick to mildly optimize the registry:>>>> a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)>>>> b) Enter: smartdrv (optional, for speed)>>>> c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt>>>> This will rebuild your registry files.>>>>>>>> ***MEB, BC....this is what transpired:>>>> followed the steps, as suggested, but the command scanreg /fix /opt>>>> stopped at 89%, before it was interrupted by this error: oWindows found
a>> >> error in your System files and was unable to fix the problem. Try
deletin>> >> some files to free up disk space on your Window Drive. If that doesn>>
>> work, then you will need to install Windows to a new Directory>>? >> >..>
>
> That's a poorly written error message -- wha> is
> actually the case is that your registry, System>dat
> to be precise, is currently too large for Scanre> to
> fix and rebuild>it>
>
> The only way to fix this, aside from just fre>hly
> reinstalling everything on your PC from scra>ch,
> including the OS, is to reduce the size of>the
> registry enough so that Scanreg won't chok> on
> it. As another poster has noted, Microsoft Of>ice
> is notorious for adding an insane amount of ent>ies
> to the regis>ry>
>
> If you've already installed your Office 2K Pro, unins>all
> it, run CCleaner, and then see if you run Sca>reg
> /opt /fix. If that works, then reinstall Office 2K.

That advice sounds pretty risky to me (in fact, running ANY of the registry
cleaners, and expecting the system to work properly afterwards, is, (IMO),
over the edge). (BTDT).

The *clean install* is the way to go - if he is obsessed over thi>.

> If this doesn't work or you hadn't yet installed Of>ice
> 2K, you can try using a more aggressive regi>try
> cleaner, but be sure to make a backup of>the
> registry before doing this. I've heard that RegSe>ker
> is the best of the "aggressive" free registry clean>rs,
> but I can't personally vouch for it. I also heard>you
> may have to run it a few times for a more thor>ugh
> cleaning. Here is a link to>it:
> http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ;ht>
>
> Then again, if your PC is otherwise working>OK,
> it may not be worth worrying about having a >uge
> registry filled with garbage entries -- it ma> be
> aethetically bothersome, but if you don't really>see
> while using your PC, wel>..>
>
> -BC
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by BC » Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:48:15


> >> Note that BAP's registry is filled with old entrees which need >> removed, >>>>> and is likely too large for a successful /fix /opt using scanreg unless >> they >>>>> are removed [hence the need to clean the registry first]". >>>>> >>>>> urrently, my USER.DAT is 1.57 MB. SYSTEM.DAT is 10.1 MB. >>>>> >>>>> BC's step-by-step suggestions: >>>>> I would make another backup of the existing system files before> > reusing> >>>> an older backup.> >>>> Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best you can, you can use> > a> >>>> Microsoft trick to mildly optimize the registry:> >>>> a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)> >>>> b) Enter: smartdrv (optional, for speed)> >>>> c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt> >>>> This will rebuild your registry files.> >>>>> >>>> ***MEB, BC....this is what transpired:> >>>> followed the steps, as suggested, but the command scanreg /fix /opt> >>>> stopped at 89%, before it was interrupted by this error: oWindows foun>
> a> >> >> error in your System files and was unable to fix the problem. Tr>
> deletin> >> >> some files to free up disk space on your Window Drive. If that doesn>t>>> >> work, then you will need to install Windows to a new Directory>gt;>
> >> >.>. >>>>
> > That's a poorly written error message -- wha> >s
> > actually the case is that your registry, System>d>t
> > to be precise, is currently too large for Scanre> >o
> > fix and rebuild>i>. >>>>
> > The only way to fix this, aside from just fre>h>y
> > reinstalling everything on your PC from scra>c>,
> > including the OS, is to reduce the size of>t>e
> > registry enough so that Scanreg won't chok> >n
> > it. As another poster has noted, Microsoft Of>i>e
> > is notorious for adding an insane amount of ent>i>s
> > to the regis>r>. >>>>
> > If you've already installed your Office 2K Pro, unins>a>l
> > it, run CCleaner, and then see if you run Sca>r>g
> > /opt /fix. If that works, then reinstall Office>2K>
>
> That advice sounds pretty risky to me (in fact, running ANY of the regi>try
> cleaners, and expecting the system to work properly afterwards, is, (I>O),
> over the edge). (BT>T)>
>
> The *clean install* is the way to go - if he is obsessed over this.

The Win98 registry is easy to backup and restore
and I've seen no issues personally in the past from
using any registry cleaner. There's actually little
risk involved if you do a backup first. I know that
there is some sort of official MS/MVP stance that
registry cleaning is unnecessary and that registry
cleaners are risky, but I've always found that advice
to be a bit more peculiar than useful.

-BC
 
 
 

How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Post by MEB » Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:55:12



"BC" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message
news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...

BAP wrote:
they
an

| That's a poorly written error message -- what is
| actually the case is that your registry, System.dat
| to be precise, is currently too large for Scanreg to
| fix and rebuild it.
|
| The only way to fix this, aside from just freshly
| reinstalling everything on your PC from scratch,
| including the OS, is to reduce the size of the
| registry enough so that Scanreg won't choke on
| it. As another poster has noted, Microsoft Office
| is notorious for adding an insane amount of entries
| to the registry.

| If you've already installed your Office 2K Pro, uninstall
| it, run CCleaner, and then see if you run Scanreg
| /opt /fix. If that works, then reinstall Office 2K.
|
| If this doesn't work or you hadn't yet installed Office
| 2K, you can try using a more aggressive registry
| cleaner, but be sure to make a backup of the
| registry before doing this. I've heard that RegSeeker
| is the best of the "aggressive" free registry cleaners,
| but I can't personally vouch for it. I also heard you
| may have to run it a few times for a more thorough
| cleaning. Here is a link to it:
| http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm
|
| Then again, if your PC is otherwise working OK,
| it may not be worth worrying about having a huge
| registry filled with garbage entries -- it may be
| aethetically bothersome, but if you don't really see
| while using your PC, well...
|
| -BC

IMO, if your suggesting uninstalling Office again [which may not be a bad
idea, and perhaps the best idea], then running through your previous cleanup
{modified to include a final check with ccleaner and removing the first
deletion of the folder if Office uninstaller works] routine WITH the
inclusion of RESTARTS for registry refresh AFTER EACH PHASE, would be better
than using scanreg /fix /opt which MIGHT cause issue with some of the
installed programs.

Modified to look like this:

1. Use Office's own uninstaller to remove Office. Restart.
2. Use Eraser 2000 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239938. Restart
3. Use MS Installer CleanUp utility http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301.
Restart.
4. Run ccleaner to remove entries other than ActiveX, tshoot, Nero if
applicable, createcd50 if applicable, Front Page Express, AV and firewall
program entries if applicable. Restart.
5. Check again with ccleaner for any entries again, if found not related to
above exclusions, remove. Restart.
6. Install Office Pro. Restart.
7. Update MDAC components including its updates if necessary
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279223/en-us and/or
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827424/en-us. Restart between installations.
If an error is encountered while installing Office perhaps this might be
needed first.
8. Go to Windows update and check for any needed updates. Restart if any
installed
9. Check Microsoft for Office 2000 updates. Restart if any installed
10. Report any/all errors encountered.

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