Start Menu & Programs Menu Icons

Start Menu & Programs Menu Icons

Post by Dr. » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:39:27


I am running Windows 98 Second Edition. I get many system
crashes, which I have become, lack of better words, to
accept as the price of using the windows platform. I have
seen a lot of funny thing through out the years that have
no logical explanation, or most of the time can not be
repeated. I have found a way to recover from them, agaion
in the ways that defeat logic.

However, I came across one that beats them all. Last
night, the windows was acting up, and as my usual
practice, I shut it down without the system going out to
lunch. This morning I started up, again with no visible
problem. So far, I am ahead of the game. Right? NO!

All the icons in the start menu, and the "programs" sub-
menu, including that of Notepad, with the exception of the
icons for IE & Office suite programs, has gone to lunch
permanently (multiple shut-downs and starts had no effect).
The icons are replaced with a yellow blur without a shape
or form.

I am curious if I should be accept it as another
unexpected gift from Microsoft, and ask no further (Let us
face it, I do not have pay for this privilage) or if there
anyone out there who has had a siiliar experience and who
would like to share it.
 
 
 

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Post by Curt Chris » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 17:08:45

Hi Dr. Z,
With all due respect to you and your problem, it's *not* a Windows problem.
Sounds very suspiciously like malware/virus related.
I did a clean install of W98 last November, and between my firewall, AV, and
just plain good surfing habits, I've hadn't had a problem.
Again, I'm not trying to "lump" you into the same catagory as me, but I
first got on the web about 3 1/2 years ago, and really had no idea what I
was doing. I used to click on every freebie that was out there.
I couldn't understand why things ran so slow, or why Windows crashed all the
time.
After a great deal of time in this NG, I began to get very discerning as to
what I would download and run on my machine, much to my liking.
The bottom line, after a couple of re-installs of W98, if one is judicious
in choosing what to run with W98, crashes become almost non-existant.
I run a very old and underpowered machine, but judging from some of the
posts here, it may run better than theirs.
Before you go any farther,(I'm assuming you're running an up-yo-date AV
app.) download these two apps. that are both free. They will look for
malware which can bog down your system significantly. Just be aware, to
have each application "check for updates" every time you run them--even the
first time.
AdAware:
http://www.yqcomputer.com/

Spybot Search & Destroy
http://www.yqcomputer.com/

I guess the reason I'm so determined to respond is that there is the opinion
out there that if you run Windows, it's gonna crash. I'm here to tell you
it's not Windows causing the problem--it's some of the garbage we choose to
install.
Please post back with any additional questions.
HTH,
Curt






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Post by bobste » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 18:10:38

Curt Christianson, I would like to second your comments about how to
have a stable Windows 98 machine.

I, too have and old machine --- P11 300 MHz with 320 megs of ram , 20
gig and 5 gig HDs. printer, scanner, CD burner and a host of other
software. I also use my-eTrust anti-virus (auto updated daily), Zone
Alarm firewall, Spybot S&D, SpywareBlaster, and Ad-aware, these later 3
checked and updated regularly. Also update Win 98, and Internet
Explorer religiously.

I run my machine 24/7, connected to the internet by broadband cable and
use a little freebie utility task scheduler to run scandisk, defrag and
automatically reboot every night. I know this is overkill, but I gotta
tell you, I've got the sweetest running Win 98 machine you ever saw. I
have "tweaked" most everything per advice from Jim Eshelman, the two
Ronnies -Badour and Martell, and several others on this board. BSODs
are VERY rare -- maybe one a month and then usually self inflicted by
trying something stupid.

I have come to the same conclusion as you. The complaints about buggy,
unstable Windows and IE are almost always traceable to problems with
poorly written apps, malware, adware, or viruses. Avoid those, and the
problems disappear. All these guys trying to get people to switch to
Linux, and a different browser - Opera, Netscape, Mozilla, are just
pointing the average Joe user toward computer hell. If one takes proper
care of their Windows / IE / OE machine they can be made virtually
trouble free. But for some, it's easier to bash Microsoft.
 
 
 

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Post by Dan » Sun, 08 Feb 2004 02:48:13

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:39:27 -0800, "Dr. Z"
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote...
| All the icons in the start menu, and the "programs" sub-
| menu, including that of Notepad, with the exception of the
| icons for IE & Office suite programs, has gone to lunch
| permanently (multiple shut-downs and starts had no effect).
| The icons are replaced with a yellow blur without a shape
| or form.

It could be that the system icon cache was corrupted. You can try the
repair function in Tweakui, which may help. You can also try
increasing and purging the cache using the free ActivIcons utility
from http://www.yqcomputer.com/

1-- in ActivIcons, go to its "Desktop Controls" screen and increase
the icon cache size to at least 2048, and then

2-- rebuild the icon cache. The options for rebuilding the cache are
on 2 small round buttons at the lower/right corner. Shut down any
programs running in the background, then click the round button
farthest to the lower/right corner (your system will reboot, and the
icon cache will be cleaned out).





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Post by Curt Chris » Sun, 08 Feb 2004 11:01:25

Hi bobster,
I could not agree with you more. Great to hear you're having such good
luck, as have I.
Just gotta tell you, my system consists of 36MB RAM, a 1GB HD, and a Pentium
P24T Overdrive processor running at 100MHz., and I love it. I don't d/l any
music, not into editing videos, so this works for me. Oh, BTW, a 28.8
dial-up connection!
Regards,
Curt




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Post by bobste » Sun, 08 Feb 2004 12:16:12

Wow! And I thought My computer was old and underpowered.

Congratulations for getting the performance you need out of
that equipment. There's a great degree of satisfaction in doing more
with less -- and it sure is a lot cheaper.

I, like you, don't d/l music, play games or do video editing. I did
upgrade my video card last year (a $45, 32 meg cheapy) and noticed some
improvement when using Irfanview to show pix. I do a lot of still photo
downloading and editing and my 1997 vintage machine is perfectly
adequate for that.

Nice conversation.

Thanks
 
 
 

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Post by Curt Chris » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 08:41:16

Hey bobster,
I couldn't resist, 32MB video? I'm running 1MB video integrated onto the
mobo. This is a Packard Bell machine circa 1993. I don't feel too bad as
one of the MS-MVP's even ran a PB machine at one time.
Have a great day, and very glad to talk to you.
Curt





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