Last Call: Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, and Windows

Last Call: Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, and Windows

Post by Qm9uZX » Tue, 09 May 2006 06:15:01


Exactly...It's not financially fesable for a company to support software
forever..(you guys have any idea how much it costs MS to run tech
support..it'd scare you!)

So instead of increasing costs of their newer software to fund tech support
for users that are using an OS that is 10 years od, they end the support.
Windows 98 will still work fine, except there will be no more updates and you
can't call MS for help. There are more than enough web resources to
troubleshoot windows 98, and any really new users probably have a new pc with
XP on it. Really, think about it for a minute, by the line of reasoning that
some people are using, MS should still be supporting Windows 3.11 as well,
maybe even dos too.
 
 
 

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Post by Dan » Tue, 09 May 2006 14:12:04


Well, it seems like people who bought Windows ME are being short-changed
with support. Windows ME came out after Windows 2000 and Windows ME
support is being cut off while Windows 2000 support continues. I guess
Microsoft is much more interested in catering to the business community
than the home community.

2000 Microsoft Windows 2000 was released February 2000.
2000 Microsoft Windows ME (Millennium) released June 19, 2000.

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Post by Noel Pato » Tue, 09 May 2006 17:37:24

Not quite true...
1) Support for Windows 2000 (RTM) finished some time ago (as did support for
Windows XP (RTM))
2) The users of Windows 2000 paid a much higher price for their OS, part of
which price includes longer-term support.
3) Support for Win98 and ME should originally have expired years ago, but MS
extended their life until this year to allow more time for less wealthy
nations and people to upgrade - this is nothing new. MS stopped selling
Win98 in Y2K, and ME in 2001/2, but they are still, however, selling Windows
2000(SP?) systems to the corporate market - which is why they continue to
extend support for the OS

Yes, I agree that MS is - or at least gives every appearance of being - more
interested in the corporate user than the home user!....and I don't like it
either.
Unfortunately the economics are that it is cheaper to support the corporate
user (for MS), than it is to support the Home user.

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Post by Richard G. » Tue, 09 May 2006 19:18:50

An excellent analysis, which overlooks only one point I can see:

Windows 2000's obsolescence was guaranteed by the decision at Microsoft not
to release "Service Pack 5" for Windows 2000, instead releasing "Service
Pack 4 Update Rollup 1". Since there is no new Service Pack there will be
no further extensions of support for Windows 2000 - it's already on its last
legs.

And unlike some other OSes I could name, it never got an extension of the
official support period. :-)

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Post by Noel Pato » Tue, 09 May 2006 19:36:57

hanks for the qualification on W2K (and the compliment!), Richard.

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Post by Qm9uZX » Wed, 10 May 2006 03:04:02

f course MS is more into the corporate customer, because that's where the
money is. One customer buying one copy of an OS is nothing, when you have
corporations that buy thousands of copies at once. Not to mention that
priemier support accounts cost MUCH more that what the consumer is paying for
support.

It's just simple economics really


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Post by Noel Pato » Wed, 10 May 2006 03:09:10

(didn't I just say that? - which isn't to say that I'm happy about it!)

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Post by Don Philli » Wed, 10 May 2006 05:10:49


for

Well, the relationship between big customer A
and little customer B is very subtle and complicated
economics, much more so than between any
vendor and any customer.

The obvious example is word processors. It makes
no sense at all for 90 per cent of users to write
personal documents and office memoranda in a
kludges like MS Word or WordPerfect: but everybody
does, either because someone gave them the software
free (i.e. customer B not customer A) or else people
send them stuff in formats that they require a word
processor to read. The world would be a lot simpler
(faster and cheaper too) if everyone used EMACS
or even WordStar -- but they won't because either
they lack the self-confidence or they are obliged to
read other people's stuff via word processor.

This situation is not explained by economic decisions
or economic markets (or software quality). But it happens.

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Post by Dan » Wed, 10 May 2006 07:56:08


Thanks for clearing that up, Noel Paton. I appreciate it.

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According to this Microsoft site, Windows 2000 Pro. users have all the
way until July, 13, 2010 until the product ends final support phase. I
am sure all the business users appreciate all that support.
 
 
 

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Post by Noel Pato » Wed, 10 May 2006 08:23:41

This list is possibly a better listing - as the support for different
Service Pack levels of the OS's phases out at different times

http://www.yqcomputer.com/ #Windows

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Post by Dan » Wed, 10 May 2006 08:36:10


I looked at the site and saw only ending support for developer tools,
Mac products and pocket streets.
 
 
 

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Post by Noel Pato » Wed, 10 May 2006 08:39:40


Look at the links at the top of the page - use the one for Windows...

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Post by Dan » Wed, 10 May 2006 09:01:21


The page did not fully display in Mozilla Firefox. I just tried the
page in Internet Explorer and everything is okay. Have a great day!
 
 
 

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Post by Noel Pato » Wed, 10 May 2006 09:04:42

I'm just off to bed - it's 1 a.m. here!
Have fun :)

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Post by Dan » Wed, 10 May 2006 09:08:12


<smile> Good night.