Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

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Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

DRM, Price and BD-J

By Charlie Demerjian: Monday, 05 May 2008, 9:16 AM

BLU-RAY PLAYER SALES are sucking wind as well they should. According to
Cnet, sales of the DRM infected format players are dropping like rocks.

The not so bright people out there had expected sales to skyrocket once the
format war was done, but it didn't. They thought was people would ignore the
massive defects of Blu-ray and buy like the dumb sheep that they are,
handcuffing themselves to the Sony bank account.

Surprise, it didn't happen. US consumers are still dumb sheep, but this time
they are realizing what is being done to them and they aren't biting. Sony's
hope of having 50% of disc sales this year be Blu-ray are more likely to
happen because of falling DVD sales than rocketing Blu-ray.

The format has three problems, DRM infections, BD-J and greed. The greed
part is obvious, Sony won the format war and are trying to charge people
between 50 and 100% more for a product with marginally better quality. Sure,
it looks better, and the 0.07% of people with 7.1 channel audio setups will
be overjoyed, but for the rest, it is a small step at best over an
upconverting DVD.

Are you going to buy the DVD version for $16.99 on new release sale or
$29.99 for the BD? It doesn't take a genius to realize that the next
iteration of Hollywood Formula #7 with Big Stars #3 and #8 isn't worth it.
The movie studios have yet to convince me that The Water Horse is worth
spending my money on at all, much less at twice the price for DRM'd HD
versions.

That brings us to the next down side, there is no up, DRM. Every Blu-ray
disc is DRM infected even if the producer doesn't want it to be, in order to
get a company to manufacture it, it must be infected. Sony gets an infection
kickback fee as well, so don't think it is purely for protection unless you
mean it in the -racket sense.

Blu-ray DRM infections do not protect anything, Slysoft has cracked it with
their excellent AnyDVD HD product, something I can't recommend enough.
Basically, new DRM schemes are broken before you can buy discs with them on
it, protecting nothing. It will however prevent legitimate users from using
legally purchased media on legally purchased hardware. If you pirate though,
no more compatibility issues, once again making Piracy the Better Choice
(TM)(C)(R).

Basically the new format has DRM baked in and in your face. It costs you
money, hurts only legitimate users, and is laughably insecure. Until it is
abolished, just say no to Blu-ray and spend your money elsewhere, try books
for example. If you must stoop to the DRM infected media, crack it and run
it from your HD, it will save you immense frustration.

The last thing that makes people want to run for the hills is the badly
broken BD-J abomination. Basically, when Blu-ray was 'finished', it wasn't
close to done. HD-DVD on the other hand was well thought out and thorough,
HD had a robust virtual machine that did all the work it needed to, and BD
had none. Sony rushed a hacked BD v1.1 out, followed by 2.0, and instantly
obsoleted all the money spent by the early adopters. All
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by Morga » Wed, 07 May 2008 04:36:45


I'll but the 7.99 BR over a 4.99 DVD. more for noticeable and
desired increase in picture quality. If you don't care about the difference
then you've got the choice to opt for a DVD instead. I don't see the big
deal.

 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by RCE Defian » Wed, 07 May 2008 04:47:38


> desired increase in picture quality. If you don't care about the>
> difference then you've got the choice to opt for a DVD instead. I don't>
> see the big deal.

The big deal is when they are obviously trying to take the *** with the
diff in price between BD and DVD on the exact same film. It's people's
choice though innit. If we don't buy it they won't charge it.
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by Klark Ken » Wed, 07 May 2008 04:49:41


< XXXX@XXXXX.COM > burned some brain cells writing:


17 - 14 = 3.

Gotta love that British math. Almost as good as their cars and their food.
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by Morga » Wed, 07 May 2008 04:54:30


> 17 - 14 = 3>
> Gotta love that British math. Almost as good as thei>
> cars and their food.

A typeo rather than my maths. should have read 3.99.
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by Morga » Wed, 07 May 2008 04:57:07


> The big deal is when they are obviously trying to tak>
> the *** with the diff in price between BD and DVD on th>
> exact same film. It's people's choice though innit. I>
> we don't buy it they won't charge it.

But is really an extortionate amount for such a new format. Bearing in
mind they will currently sell far fewer units when compared to DVD. I
wouldn't pay full wack for an older film (unless it was a particular
favorite of mine) But I think more on a new release is fair enough.
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by RCE Defian » Wed, 07 May 2008 04:58:57


> 17 - 14 = 3>
> Gotta love that British math. Almost as good as their cars and their>
> food.

LOL!
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by Michael » Wed, 07 May 2008 05:02:53


> 17 - 14 = 3>
> Gotta love that British math. Almost as good as their cars and their>
> food.

You should see our teeth!
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by scoope » Wed, 07 May 2008 05:05:31


>>> I'll but the 7.99 BR over a 4.99 DVD. mor>> >> 17 - 14 = 3>> >>> >> Gotta love that British math. Almost as good as their cars and their>> >> food>
>>
> You should see our teeth!>
>>
>

much better than fat americans.
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by Pantyhos » Wed, 07 May 2008 05:58:32


>>> I'll but the 7.99 BR over a 4.99 DVD. mor>> >>> >> 17 - 14 = 3>> >>> >> Gotta love that British math. Almost as good as their cars and their>> >> food>
> You should see our teeth>
>

Everyone on planet earth has the same teeth, it's just in N Amerika they
spend thousands to fill, straiten, cap, whiten, veneer, replace,
dentures..etc because were so vain and fake.
Not many have real original teeth left to nature.

Beta Ray sucks btw.
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by Pantyhos » Wed, 07 May 2008 05:58:45


>> > I'll but the 7.99 BR over a 4.99 DVD. mor>> >>> >> 17 - 14 = 3>> >>> >> Gotta love that British math. Almost as good as thei>> >> cars and their food>
> A typeo rather than my maths. should have read 3.99.

happens to everyone..
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by Morga » Wed, 07 May 2008 06:04:07


> 17 - 14 = 3>
> Gotta love that British math. Almost as good as thei>
> cars and their food.

Thought I will point out that we have far better Chocolate than you and from
what I've been told, our cars are far more economical and corner much
better. Either way I wouldn't get a British or American car. German is
another matter. I would also comment about our electorate, but the fools in
London have denied me that ability to do that. *** y Boris. :-)
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by Tom » Wed, 07 May 2008 06:06:56


> desired increase in picture quality. If you don't care about the>
> difference then you've got the choice to opt for a DVD instead. I don't>
> see the big deal.

But you gave s different price than the article (which sounded more like an
op-ed piece than a real fact based article). The difference was $29.99 over
$16.99, that's almost double the price. Even converted to pounds, you're
not going to see the 7.99 price for BD as the difference for a 4.99 DVD,
the DVD would be more like .99 (or less even).
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by Morga » Wed, 07 May 2008 06:44:07


> But you gave s different price than the article (whic>
> sounded more like an op-ed piece than a real fact base>
> article). The difference was $29.99 over $16.99, that's almost double the>
> price. Even converted to pounds, you'r>
> not going to see the 7.99 price for BD as t>e
> difference for a 4.99 DVD, the DVD would be more l>ke
> .99 (or less even).

That's because I'm using my own figures from BRs I've bought. Most recently
I am Legend. was 7.99 from both HMV (a *major* UK high street shop) and
play.com whre as the DVD special edition (the standard was cheaper but less
extras) was 3.99. This is pretty much the norm for the UK at them moment
and I'd be surprised if the US was any different. The only massive price
difference in the UK is on older films that are new to BR but that have been
out for a long time on DVD.
 
 
 

Blu-Ray sales tank for good reasons

Post by Steve Irvi » Wed, 07 May 2008 07:58:05


>>>> I'll but the 7.99 BR over a 4.99 DVD. mor>>>>>> 17 - 14 = 3>>>>>>>>>>> Gotta love that British math. Almost as good as their cars and thei>>>>>> food>> >>> >> You should see our teeth>> >>
>>
> much better than fat americans.

If they had good dental care, like here in the US, they'd be fat too.

Well, maybe......if their food was any go<d .