tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by bWU » Mon, 07 Mar 2005 10:33:01


The tablet PC market in the UK is dead. The big retailers like PC World here
don't even sell any tablet PCs. Go into most companies and you won't see any
tablets. I work in one of the UKs biggest banks and I have seen exactly one
tablet PC here. Guess who had it - the on site Microsoft representative.

To make this product mainstream I think the size and weight has to come
down. At the moment this is a geek product. No-one wants to walk around
carrying something the size and weight of an LCD TV.

I think tablets need to become filofax size and replace the Pocket PC
market. When are we going to see 7-8 inch tablets? The sony u750p is part
way there but the sony's screen at 6 inches is just that little bit too
small. Apart from that its a great product.

I'm expecting replies saying paper size screen is best for writing. Yes for
some people, especially IT companies where its cool to walk around with a
tablet. But to make these mainstream something has to change, and I think its
the size. 7, 8, even 9 inches, its all about the size. The products need to
look a lot cooler before people will use them in a mainstream way.

http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by Mike Willi » Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:16:14


Since it's an invisible/intangible product most places outside the US at
the moment, I don't think weight needs to come down for a market to
exist (although that will come down as regular laptop sizes decrease -
there's no magic that you can do just for tablets).

None of my media/tech-savvy friends in the UK have ever seen a real
Tablet and as far as they're concerned it has yet to be released there.
Ditto here in Australia. Although over a million tablets have been sold,
I don't see Microsoft getting behind it in any non-US markets. Even
folks in the US complain about the drab advertising.

 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by Chris H » Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:43:58

Asia is pretty hot, Mike. A couple of the OEMs sell only in those markets.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://www.yqcomputer.com/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by Mickey Seg » Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:59:12

James Kendrick and I have both enunciated this view:
http://www.yqcomputer.com/
http://www.yqcomputer.com/
However, it is a minority view among people who already have the laptop size
Tablet PCs. Senior people in the Tablet PC hardware and software business
reflect the preferences of these existing customers. However, if you talk
to potential users such as doctors they say they would only put up with the
inconveniences of a Tablet PC if they could put it in a pocket, and thus
gain the huge convenience of continuous access to a real computer.

The obvious answer is a variety of sizes of Tablet PCs. Sooner or later
someone will produce a small one and we will get to test our predictions.
In the meantime, it seems like a chapter out of Clay Christensen's book "The
Innovator's Dilemma".
 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by Mike Willi » Mon, 07 Mar 2005 13:03:28


I would say that's due to OEM advertising rather than Microsoft. In two
years I've seen 2 tablets in Australian stores (neither with a pen), one
ad (Toshiba) and *nothing* from Microsoft. I just searched my archive of
product flashes from the local subsidiary from the last 18 months and
found 2 footnoted references to Tablets...and that's in a technology
bellwether country that has some of Microsoft's very largest global
accounts.

From all accounts the situation in Europe is not much different: no
store presence and little advertising.
 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by Mike Willi » Mon, 07 Mar 2005 13:32:44


I agree that the mini-Tablet is a good thing and it will surely come.
I'd like to quickly dock a mini to a larger screen or key-station for
intense reading. I can see a future for internet cafes providing such
facilities for the widely roaming user, especially in areas where
wireless access is not easily available.

For the present though, there is a vast audience of laptop/pc users who
could profit from direct/ink input on a larger screen device. These are
the professionals and creative types who only occasionally roam from
their office, not to mention the larger audience of surfers and readers
who want a home or office-based device. This includes the majority of
doctors and clinical staff who are not in hospitals doing rounds.
 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by Chris H » Mon, 07 Mar 2005 13:49:53

I didn't say it was Microsoft's advertising, Mike. There are certain
segments of the market which deal only with Asia, and that's where they are
pointed. A couple of them, with really "wow" Tablets aren't in the U.S.
market at all because they don't have the distribution structure here.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://www.yqcomputer.com/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by Mauricio F » Mon, 07 Mar 2005 15:42:09


I see some Toshiba advertising on IT magazines here n New Zealand. I
actually bought my M200 in the US last year because it was much more
expensive here (and Tablets are already more expensive than laptops anyway).

--
Mauricio Freitas, Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
http://www.yqcomputer.com/
Bluetooth guides: http://www.yqcomputer.com/
Geekzone Software Store for Pocket PC and Smartphone:
http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

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Post by Jonathan S » Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:50:48

Back to the original topic: I get the impression that people are
saying the tablet platform is "dead," for lack of market support,
everywhere except the U.S. and Japan.

From my limited perspective, I would say it is very low-visibility (I
will not say "dead") in the U.S. I have seen zero coverage of it in
the general press. If you look for articles about tablet PCs in the
trade press, you can find them; if you just read for general news,
you'll almost never see them.

I have been attending law school for the last two years, and about 50%
of my fellow students bring laptops to class. I have not seen a single
one with a tablet. I wonder how many are even aware that such a thing
exists.

My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.
 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by Ken Schaef » Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:23:26

Well, I wouldn't say it's entirely dead in Australia. I see plenty of
Toshiba ads in the trade press...

And, in any case, when you turn up to events with a Tablet, everyone wants
to check it out, making you the "cool" guy for a while. :-)

Cheers
Ken




: > The tablet PC market in the UK is dead. The big retailers like PC World
here
: > don't even sell any tablet PCs. Go into most companies and you won't see
any
: > tablets. I work in one of the UKs biggest banks and I have seen exactly
one
: > tablet PC here. Guess who had it - the on site Microsoft representative.
: >
: > To make this product mainstream I think the size and weight has to come
: > down.
:
: Since it's an invisible/intangible product most places outside the US at
: the moment, I don't think weight needs to come down for a market to
: exist (although that will come down as regular laptop sizes decrease -
: there's no magic that you can do just for tablets).
:
: None of my media/tech-savvy friends in the UK have ever seen a real
: Tablet and as far as they're concerned it has yet to be released there.
: Ditto here in Australia. Although over a million tablets have been sold,
: I don't see Microsoft getting behind it in any non-US markets. Even
: folks in the US complain about the drab advertising.
 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by Chris H » Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:35:07

Aware? Have you asked your fellow law students? 8-)
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://www.yqcomputer.com/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by Mickey Seg » Wed, 09 Mar 2005 00:12:18

In contrast the New York Times has done two stories about small Windows XP
computers that don't come with the Tablet version of Windows XP:

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

This fits with the Original Poster's hypothesis that the market is looking
for full PC power with pocket mobility, which Tablet PCs could do if there
were some smaller and less expensive hardware.
 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by usene » Wed, 09 Mar 2005 03:34:13


I would say that in the UK it isn't 'Dead' (ie, stopped appearing
anywhere) as 'Never live' (ie, was never advertised).
It is easy enough to get a tablet (online) if you know they exist, but
you have to find out they exist yourself.


--
Woody

www.alienrat.com
 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by Mike Willi » Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:29:20


But it doesn't mean that folks don't want screens where they can easily
read a full A4/Letter page of information in one go in a portable
device. If the market is looking for one particular device
configuration, it doesn't mean that it's to the exclusion of all other
configurations.
 
 
 

tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets

Post by Mickey Seg » Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:36:12

Right. Some folks will want a big tablet, others will want a pocket tablet
that they can dock at their desk. Either market may have trouble getting
going on its own, but the combination may have critical mass.