will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

Post by Norbert Aq » Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:50:40


I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
benefits. would using readyboost degrade my performance since it is using
flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve performance?
Is there a specific class of flash storage speed that i shoud use to realize
improved performance with the current configuration of my pc?
 
 
 

will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

Post by Synapse Sy » Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:37:02


Unless you are doing some serious multitasking with some heavyweight apps
and/or have a some virtual machines running, I reckon all it would do is
actually slow your computer down. That is what it seemed to do for me,
anyway.

I had the feeling it even slowed my computer down with only 2GB and lots of
large apps running (CAD, 3D and graphics apps open all at the same time,
with large files), but I do have WD Raptors, in RAID-0.

ReadyBoost is only worth thinking about with very small amounts of RAM (like
1GB). Proper RAM is much faster.

ss.

 
 
 

will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

Post by Kerry Brow » Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:48:32

Disabling the page file can cause performance problems. The first thing I'd
do is create a page file and see if the performance is better.

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will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

Post by AF » Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:45:28

On Sep 16, 8:48m, "Kerry Brown" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM *a*m>




How could you test performance with and without a pagefile?
 
 
 

will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

Post by Mike Hall » Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:57:02


Unless your computer is set to do only one repetitive task, and space is at
a premium, there is no point in disabling the paging file.

For general use across multiple applications and functions, set the page
file to be system managed.

Turning off the paging file and then employing a flash drive in Readyboost
mode is not the way to go.


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will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

Post by gls85 » Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:18:45


Most info indicates that readyboost only increases performance on PC
with less that 1 gig of RAM.
 
 
 

will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

Post by Ken Blake, » Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:11:05

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:50:40 +0800, "Norbert Aquende"




Disabling the page file will *not* improve performance.

1. If you don't have a page file, you can't use all the RAM you have.
That's because Windows preallocates virtual memory in anticipation of
a possible need for it, even though that allocated virtual memory may
never be used. Without a page file, that allocation has to be made in
real memory, thus tying up that memory and preventing it from being
used for any purpose.

2. There is never a benefit in not having a page file. If it isn't
needed, it won't be used. Don't confuse allocated memory with used
memory.




No.




With that much RAM, it's highly unlikely that Readyboost will ever
improve performance at all. In my view, it hardly ever does anything
for someone who has as much as 2GB of RAM. And if you have less than
2GB, almost anyone would do better by spending the money for
additional RAM rather than a Readyboost device. I think Readyboost is
almost always a poor choice of things to do.




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will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

Post by Theory of » Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:47:26

> ReadyBoost is only worth thinking about with very small amounts of RAM

small amounts of ram... 1gb???????

See what Vista has us thinking now????? lol

Crap, that OS crawls with anything less than 2gb ram, and the 32bit version
can take up to 2.5 - 3.5 maximum depending on your hardware...

BOY VISTA SUCKS!

If you go ahead and claim that ram is cheap, please be ready to donate $20 -
$30 dollars per computer of the whole world with one or less gb of ram,
since that's what they will have to pay to get vista to not crawl.

Sure its not much, but if you think of it in a large scale.. well people
will not do it because of money limitations, or they are plain bored, or
they might not even know that such a thing is possible!
*yes there are people that don't know anything technical, they just start
the computer and work, or at least they TRY to work with vista...*

lol vista sucks for one more reason!
 
 
 

will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

Post by Bill Yan » Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:56:08


Your logic is skewed. Since you don't understand Vista you shouldn't be
anywhere near Vista. DOS 6.22 is your best bet.

Vista sucks for you because you don't understand the technology or how to
use Vista. I suggest a class or go to a book store and get a basic guide to
help you out. Within time even you can make progress.
 
 
 

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Post by Theory of » Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:09:54

I am sorry to burst your bubble, but you see a pattern world wide here.

The more computer savvy a person is, the more he knows that vista is a bag
full of bugs.

And that would make you.. what? A computer ignorant illiterate moron!
 
 
 

will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

Post by Bill Yan » Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:13:56


And that would make you a douche bag who doesn't understand the basics of
Vista. You are the ignorant illiterate moron. You are having so much
trouble with Vista, all you do is complain because you can't get anything to
work. Get a book, something like "Vista for Retards" and study real hard.
Within 6 years you could have a basic understanding of your computer. Good
luck and let us know your progress.
 
 
 

will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

Post by Theory of » Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:23:21


I can make vista work as designed and even a little bit better, but I
cannot alter the code and correct it of course.
The limitation is built into its very fabric of design, the ideas that went
into it, and the hundreds of stupid meaningless horrible changes they made
to poor old XP. Change for the sake of change without thought and
experimentation to back up the changes.

Vista is *** by design, ugly, slow and bloated and especially non user
friendly.


The mere fact that you defend it, shows a lot about what your standards are.
And Im sure those rock bottom standards of computing reflect all your
standards in life.
 
 
 

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Post by Fran » Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:09:25


hehehe...sure you can...I've seen a sampling of your
configuration...it's horrible!

but I

You and your stupid "tweaking" is the real problem.


So Vista has you confused, huh?
Figures.

Change for the sake of change without thought

Show us your design credentials, or web sites that you've (supposedly)
designed ok, or else just STFU and slink away.
 
 
 

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Post by Kerry Brow » Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:50:24

> How could you test performance with and without a pagefile?

Create a system managed page file. Use the computer for a while doing the
things you normally do. Disable the page file. Use the system for a while
doing the things you normally do. Every time I've tried it, it was very
obvious that a page file was needed. I've tried it on many systems, 32 bit
and 64 bit, clients and servers, many versions of Windows, with varying
amounts of RAM up to 16 GB. I've never found a situation where disabling the
page file didn't noticeably cause problems and eventually slow the system
down. With a lot of RAM on a server dedicated to one task it was not
noticeable until the server had been up for several days. With win2k, XP,
and Vista it's usually noticeable almost immediately.

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Post by VB M » Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:23:50

"Norbert Aquende" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >'s wild thoughts were
released on Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:50:40 +0800 bearing the
following fruit:


I tried readyboost on my 4gb machine and my 2gb machine.

In the former case I noticed no difference, in the latter
there was a big improvement, although you only really notice
it with ram intensive software.


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