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Post by SWRhbiBCaX » Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:47:06


Hi,
My name is Idan, I would like to start MCSE course.
What I have to do ? and with who I have to talk !?

Please answer mw ASAP.

Idan.
 
 
 

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Post by John » Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:30:20


First off, let me apologize for taking almost 45 minutes to answer your most
obvious question. I can assure you, my supervisors won't take kindly to me
taking so long to get back to you. It truly is best that when you need to
know the answers to very basic questions that you do in fact insist that you
get an answer ASAP.

To answer your question, I suggest you start here...
www.microsoft.com/learning

Again, please accept my sincere apologies for the unforgiveable delay in
getting back to you.

John R

 
 
 

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Post by SWRhbiBCaX » Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:59:02

Hi John,

First, thank you for your reply.
Socond, 45 Minutes its a lot of time !!! what wrong with you !?!?
You could reply in Max. 10 Minutes !!!!!
=]

thnks, but i already visited theat site and coulnet find any information
about registering to MCSE course.

Idan.
 
 
 

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Post by John » Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:20:21


Are you looking to register for a test, or are you looking for someone to
teach you the skills ?
The learning home page has information on training resources, as well as
MCSE requirements.
To actually take a test, you need to contact Microsoft's testing partner,
www.prometric.com

John R
 
 
 

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Post by Mostly Giz » Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:20:47


I took the liberty of performing 2 mouse clicks from the above site, and
landed at http://www.yqcomputer.com/

MG
 
 
 

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Post by SWRhbiBCaX » Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:34:01

John,

I want to do the course and after it, the test.
I Can do the same in the "Open University".
I can take there the course & the test for aprox. 3000$.

But, I was wondering if I can do the same but not in the open university,
I mean stright in Microsoft .
Does Microsoft have any College or Something where I can do it !?

Idan.
 
 
 

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Post by John » Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:15:54


MCSE is not a course, it is a certification. To earn MCSE, you will be
tested on various skills such as managing the server product, managing the
network infrastructure, designing security, managing workstations, etc, etc.
Certifications are meant to validate existing experience.

Microsoft offers training courses which you should be able to easily
identify from the learning homepage. If you go to the link that MG posted,
http://www.yqcomputer.com/ , (or from the
learning homepage, select 'Certifications', and then select MCSE) and then
select either MCSE 2003 or MCSE 2000 (whichever you are interested in), you
will see the exact testing requirements. In the requirement tables, they
list Microsoft training courses, both classroom, distance, and e-learning.
You can also view the testing objectives by clicking on any of the tests.
Once you are sure you know the objectives, you can decide if you are ready
to take the test. Once you complete all of the testing requirements,
Microsoft will award the certification. Again, this all starts back at the
learning home page.

Other vendors offer varying amounts of training depending on what you want
to spend. In general, you should stay away from anything that looks like a
brain dump and concentrate on learning the material that you do not already
have experience with. If you have any questions about brain dumps or
particular vendors, I would suggest you research them on certguard.com.

John R
 
 
 

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Post by SWRhbiBCaX » Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:25:02

John,

How much tests at all should i do to get the certificate !?
and, maybe you know how much costs each of them.. approx..


thnks.
Idan.
 
 
 

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Post by John » Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:31:57


In the US, the tests are $125 each. Check with Microsoft's testing partner
www.prometric.com if you are in a different area to find out how much they
are there.

Please refer to http://www.yqcomputer.com/
see which tests you need to take.

John R
 
 
 

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Post by JaR » Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:21:27


What the heck has happened to this group? When did it become
public.cert.exam.handholding?

Hey, Idan? If you are unable to figure out the most basic questions
regarding certification, you might as well just give up now. You don't
have what it takes. MCSE's need to be able to do basic research to
solve problems. There will be a heck of a lot more complicated
questions coming down the road, and it's unlikely anyone will want to
or be able to give you all the answers.

MCSE does *not* stand for Must Consult Someone Else.

--
JaR
Just a friendly kick in the pants
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Post by Briscoba » Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:44:04


John, you're doing good work, but you might as well quit while you're ahead.
This guy, and others like him, don't want to do any research. They want to
simply be told how to go through life. They don't want to figure out
anything on their own. Continue to help if you want, but you'll only
frustrate yourself.

KB
 
 
 

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Post by John » Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:49:14


There is more than enough OT stuff in this group, some of it labeled as
such, most of it not, that once in a while it doesn't hurt to go over the
basics with a few people. How many times have we seen this same type of
thing? At first, I was going to go all sarcastic over this OP (just look at
my first post). Then I just accepted the fact that this guy, like a million
other people out there, desire MCSE but really have no clue as to even what
it is, let along how to earn it. So, in that vain, yeah I'll hold his hand
for a while, repeat myself a few times, and keep him pointed in the right
direction. One of two things will happen. Either he will realize just how
much work it is to earn MCSE and he'll get scared off, or he really will
pursue it and hopefully I've kept him in the right direction. Either way,
maybe someone else just like him will read this thread.

I understand your frustration JaR, I really do. But in the end, I believe
that these groups were meant for helping people. I try not to discriminate.

John R
 
 
 

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Post by JaR » Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:54:49


It's good to try to help people. But I truly believe you are not
helping the OP with that sort of handholding. If they think there is an
easy way to certification, then that's the way they will go. When they
find out how much work it is, well heck, let's just dump our way
through.

Better to find out how badly they want it early on, I think. Then
provide guidance if needed.

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JaR
When the very best is not nearly enough
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Post by Jtyc » Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:45:55

> I understand your frustration JaR, I really do. But in the end, I believe

I agree with you with the helping people but the method of help is where we
diverge. You are following the philosophy of taking someones hand and
guiding them through. I believe that you help someone MORE by teaching them
to help themselves. They will be better for it in the long run, especially
in IT.


Either way, you're a swell guy. Two thumbs up!