Comcast annual Xmas gift

Comcast annual Xmas gift

Post by Dan Cottle » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 03:00:23


Here we are, just after Thanksgiving... And Comcast has started its
annual Xmas *** job!

On the plate this year we have:

1. Netnews is shutting down. The Ex-ATTBI customers, who have been
enjoying virtually unlimited USENET access, will be transitioned to
Comcast's crappy dealio with Giganews.
< http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ;

2. To soften the blow, Comcast is granting us a boon - they're
increasing everyone's Giganews service from 1 GB/month to 2 GB. And now
it won't include headers. Of course, that's still only 2/30 of what we
had under @Home. And it's Giganews' short gigs.

3. Comcast is beginning to roll out 5.9% price increases.
< http://www.yqcomputer.com/
ble_rates_in_january/>

It's the Comcast way - less service for more $.

Happy Xmas!
- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus
- South Jersey, USA, Earth
 
 
 

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Post by BR » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 03:57:55


I've noticed that SBC is doing a $19/month for a year special. Guess
Comcast didn't get the news.

--
-- James Fenimore Cooper
The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes,
knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.

 
 
 

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Post by nospam4m » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 07:41:00


That could be a case of getting what you pay for - and I have every reason
to believe SBC will grossly oversubscribe their DSL nets.


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Post by Dave C » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:14:07


Ummmmm . . . I think you are confused. Oversubscribing is a problem that is
unique to cable modem technology. -Dave
 
 
 

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Post by Never anon » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:46:40

Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, "Dave C." < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > on Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:14:07 -0500 spoke:


Yeah, right, sure, OK, absolutely, undoubtedly, of course, uh-huh...







--

The truth is out there,

but it's not interesting enough for most people.
 
 
 

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Post by Warre » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:51:00


HAHAHA! Good one!

Or didn't you realize that even though you have your own pair of wires
to the CO, past the CO and the DSLAM it's all shared.

--
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Post by Dave C » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:29:42


Of course it is all shared. But with DSL, the sharing happens far enough
from the end user, that the end user doesn't notice any slow-downs unless
they affect the whole Internet. With cable modem, you can look forward to
your service slowing down every night during peak usage hours in areas that
are over-subscribed (that would be most areas currently, and all of them
eventually). Those nightly slow-downs do NOT happen with DSL. -Dave
 
 
 

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Post by Warre » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:54:21


The sharing of capacity issue in cable comes in the "last mile" - the
coax between the CMTS and the user. The sharing capacity issue in DSL is
at the DSLAM, which is the entry point, and the only entry point to the
"last mile". The effect is the same. The traffic cannot be routed around
the bottleneck to avoid the bottleneck.

There are no "nightly slow-downs" on cable when it is not oversold, but
there are "nightly slow-downs" on DSL ISP's who oversell the capacity on
the DSLAM.

You can kid yourself all you want, but a bottleneck at the only entry
point to the last mile is no different than a bottleneck on the last
mile itself.

--
Warren H.

==========
Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.
See My Christmas Lights:
http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

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Post by Norman » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:57:06

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, Dave C. says...


Well, at least the whole bunch of customers on the pipe between the DSLAM
and the Interent...


At least as long as the pipe from the DSLAM to the Internet can handle the
traffic.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
 
 
 

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Post by DCT Dictat » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:51:44


SBC's $19 DSL only comes with a $50/month flat fee long distance
package.

Comcast could imitate that by selling $19 HSI to all customers who pay
$75/month for expanded basic TV.


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moblog at http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

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Post by Ron Hunte » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:46:18


DSL fanatics seem to forget that the internet is ALL a shared resource.
Just because they have their own line to the DSLAM, doesn't mean they
don't have to share all the servers, routers, and backbone bandwidth to
anything they want to reach on the internet.
 
 
 

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Post by Ron Hunte » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:48:17


First, your first generalization isn't quite true. I have never
experienced the slowdown you describe after about 7 years on cable. And
if you think there aren't any oversubscribed DSL systems around, I would
suspect you are mistaken. But then I don't have to be within a few
blocks of the local office to get 3mbps service from cable, either.
 
 
 

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Post by Ron Hunte » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:51:09


For a long time, Charter Cable offered their internet access in this
area at $25 if you subscribed to the extended digital TV plan. Sadly,
this is no longer the case, but I get 3mbps/256kbps service for $40.
For my needs, this is quite workable, although I would like to see them
match the 384kbps upstream speed offered by other cable services.
 
 
 

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Post by Giles Harn » Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:39:00


i was going to say that you are a moron but the subsequent replies to your
post make that pretty clear.
 
 
 

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Post by Don Burnet » Thu, 02 Dec 2004 13:08:28


I guess I have been pretty lucky. I have been with Comcast since they first
came to my area, think it was in 97 or 98. I have lived in two different
areas during that time, but the same county.
I have yet to notice an appreciable difference in my speeds during the
evening versus any other time. My cable modem service has been very good to
me over the years.

Dropping the news server after going away from @Home to Comcast.Net, was
really no big deal for me. I suscribe to Giganews service anyway, gives me
great retention, and a good volume of downloads per month should I need
them. If that helps keep our speeds up, then I am all for it. After all, not
everyone needs more than 1 or 2 gigs a month, or any for that matter.


--
Don Burnette