Framemaker and footnotes.

Framemaker and footnotes.

Post by Charles Gr » Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:08:16

I know this is a pagemaker group, but I'm getting desperate, and the
problem might be one that's common to both systems. Here it is:
I'm working on Layout for the California State
University history Journal, which means footnotes. Lots and lots of
Now most papers are coming out fine, but some are doing somethign
weird, and I have no idea why. When I import them, the footnote
numbering changes. For example, if the footnote was 18, it's
renumbered tp 189, and then the footnote at the bottem of the page
goes: 18, then right before the text of the footnote, there's a
superscript 9. The situation seems to be that the main footnote is
going from one to whatever the total number of footnotes, but every
page is ALSO keeping track of hte footnotes on the page. I.E., if you
have five footnotes on the page, that would go from 6-10, what you'll
get will be 60,71,82,93,104. At the bottem, you'll get 6:
(superscripot) 0, and so one.

Does anyone know what is happening? I've tried the following
1. Renumbering the footnotes. using the automatic feature, which
doesn't work.
2. Importing in both Word and RTF-- the problem remains the same.

Now the interesting thing is that not all files, not even all word
and RTF files have the same problem, which makes me think there's some
weird formatting problem going on.
I really, REALLY don't want to have to convert to plain text and
manually key in every if anyone could help, I'd be very

Framemaker and footnotes.

Post by Dick Margu » Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:12:36


I am going to post your question to a listserv I belong to where a lot
of expert Frame users hang out. I'll post the response back here if I
get one. This being Thanksgiving weekend, I hope you're not in a big hurry.



Framemaker and footnotes.

Post by Neil Goul » Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:30:02

Recently, Charles Gray < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > posted:

Two things:

1) You may want to post this in comp.text.frame, if you haven't already.

2) As a long time Framemaker user, I can't discern how you are working
from the above description. What format are your "original papers'? Word,
Frame, something else?

If the documents are coming in from Word, this may be a problem caused by
your import settings. OTOH, if the documents originated in Frame it could
be a problem with the footnote numbering definition in Framemaker. If
everyone is not using the same, unmodified style sheet, you can get
unpredictable results.

Good luck!

Neil Gould
Terra Tu AV -
Technical Graphics & Media

Framemaker and footnotes.

Post by Dick Margu » Wed, 03 Dec 2003 08:20:28


I finally got one response for you--maybe not the one you want to
hear--and there may be more coming later.

Here you go:

"Well, you could hit the screwed up files only, and
copy the footnote text, delete the footnote, and then
re-create it by pasting the text back into a new
footnote. Manual process, but less time-consuming.

I've not seen this before, but it could be one of a
couple of things:
1. a cross-reference to another bookmark
2. a variable
3. A *** Word glitch (or something done oddly in
Word that FM doesn't understand)

Don't poo-poo the cut/paste suggestion, as it might be
the fastest route to a solution, at least in the short term."

Framemaker and footnotes.

Post by Charles Gr » Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:33:06

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:20:28 -0500, *** Margulis < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >

Thanks for your time! It turns out that the original author may be
using some non-Word WP that is exporting into word. Regardless,
thanks for your help!