print margin question

print margin question

Post by T.O. Gallo » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 08:35:15

My printer normally has .12" of margin at the top. However, PageMaker is
adding another 1/4" to the top on it's own. I can't find it anywhere in the
settings and it's driving me nuts.

Is there anywhere I can make it do what Photoshop does and simply print with
the printer's margin settings?

Thanks all.


print margin question

Post by Helpful Ha » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:33:06

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, "T.O. Galloway"

Probably not.

When printing from PageMaker (and some other applications) most inkjet
printers have a 0.5inch margin (approx.) all the way around the page.
Most laser printers have a 0.25inch margin.

Unless you can find a better printer description file (PPD) for
PageMaker for your particular printer, then there's only one choice:
export to a PDF and then print that from Acrobat / Acrobat Reader, this
will give you smaller printable margins.

Helpful Harry
"Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships" ;o)


print margin question

Post by T.O. Gallo » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:38:37

Thanks Harry.

I looked at PPD and it appears this is for a PostScript printer. I'm just
using an Epson 1160 desktop and I don't think it's PostScript. I'm not
knowledgeable on PostScript printers.

But the mystery is, it doesn't add this extra .5" unprintable margins if I
just set up a standard 8.5 x 11 page. (And changing the Margin settings in
the Document Setup box has no effect on any size of paper.) So I know that
it's at least capable of doing it with that paper size description.

I just bought this software. I don't suppose there is an Adobe help/tech
support place that I can address this question to---without paying MORE
$$--is there? I've looked around the Adobe site but can only find the
support forum. So far no help there.

Thanks all.


print margin question

Post by Helpful Ha » Sat, 06 Dec 2003 05:09:32

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, "T.O. Galloway"

Most inkjet printers aren't Postscript capable - the ones that are tend
to be quite expensive and usually bigger than A4.

The margins listed in PageMaker's Document Set-up window (and most
other applications for that matter) are only for the user's guidance
and have no relation at all to what the printer is capable of doing -
although some applications will complain if you try to set them below a
"minimum" size.

It's more a problem with the printer drivers / PPDs than any problem
with PageMaker itself. You'd need to find a better printer driver /
PPD, but this is unlikely to happen with inkjets ... or even laser
printers now that Adobe seems to be consigning PageMaker to history.

Basically you're stuck with a margin (0.5" on inkjets and 0.25 on laser
printers). (Older) inkjets also usually have a bigger minimum margin on
the bottom edge than the other edges. This is to do something to do
with paper-handling.

The only real way around it is to use the PDF export and then print via
Acrobat / Acrobat Reader. The other way is to print A4 documents on an
A3 page and trim them manually to size.

Or, of course, take you final documents to a professional print company
for real press-style printing or colour laser printing.

Helpful Harry
"Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships" ;o)