Newbie Q on need for X10

Newbie Q on need for X10

Post by andybaume » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 03:01:43

Currently working on house plans & intend to use structured wire (dual
Cat 5e & RG-6) throughout. Question - if you've hardwired everything,
how much X10 do you end up needing/using? For example, are there
applications that work better/cheaper/only using X10?

Newbie Q on need for X10

Post by Bruce » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 07:02:31

Hardwire is great for critical applications such as water valve controls
where an unintended X10 transmission or lack thereof could result in
costly or wasteful operations. However, for lighting and less critical
applications X10 is generally much less expensive.
I use X10 extensively for lighting and pool equipment control. For
HVAC, I use hardwire RS-485 in my new home where I could run wires, but
in my 2nd home I use X10 for HVAC control with no problems.


Newbie Q on need for X10

Post by Sympatic » Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:05:05

If you're running wire anyway, avoid X10 like the plague, and go for
something that has it's own independent wiring system like Jaguar... X10
works 80% of the time. It's that 20% remainder that ends up pissing you off.
I've disabled virtually all my macros on X10 'cos you just can't rely on it
working every time. Unless you've got a house with perfect wiring and you
spend the extra cash on filters, boosters, and blockers, there's still no
guarantee -- at least from me: I've never built a house from scratch and
used X10.

When you go from having a life where a flip of a mechanical switch turns a
light on 100% of the time to having a switch that may not turn on 'cos
you're running a Macro from a minute and a half ago, you'll see what I mean.

I'm not trolling for flames, just relating my experience. I'm no noob,
either. I've ended up stripping down my "home automation" to the basics --
lights on/off, front porch light timer, and a few handheld remotes to adjust
the lights from the couch or the bed. My motion sensor in the ba *** t hall
only works half the time, 'cos X10 sensors are crap.

I was just tickled that a transmitter I installed in the garage will turn
the lights on in the kitchen so my wife isn't stumbling around in the dark
getting to the security panel.

Again -- if you're starting from scratch, why not spend the extra cash and
do it right.