Best synth for traditional instrument sounds

Best synth for traditional instrument sounds

Post by Earl Kiost » Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:54:38

Hi folks,

What's the absolutely best MIDI module for traditional instrument sounds? I
mean solo trumpets, trombones, etc, as well as brass ensemble, strings,
piano, drums, guitars. I need orchestral as well as contemporary combo
instruments. I'm not as interested in synthy sounds -- got plenty of that
stuff. My Roland JV-1080 is quite good in some areas, but I'm looking for a
better box for this kind of stuff. Thanks


Best synth for traditional instrument sounds

Post by A Fourfort » Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:22:53

I'd go with the Kurzweil PC-2R/O. It has very good orchestral sounds.
Also, Kurzweil has the best piano sounds in the industry IMO.


Best synth for traditional instrument sounds

Post by David Rale » Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:04:40

You want a collection of samples. For some reason which I will never
understand sample players are called synthesizers, when the whole point is
that they don't synthesize. Csound synthesizes samples, and it is
whatever you make of it. The best samples? You have to try some to see
what you like. daveA

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Best synth for traditional instrument sounds

Post by stickyfo » Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:00:01

There is far more to "rompler" style synthesis than simply playing back
a sample. The difference between sample-based synthesizers and those
pieces of gear we specifically call samplers is pretty easy to spot.

The chief role of a sampler is to capture and reproduce a sound. This
is a dynamic process that usually takes place over a single production,
or even during a single performance. Usually only endpoints and pitch
are adjusted, and a simple filter and effect are applied to the sample
to fit it into the mix. The vast majority of sample collections are
designed for this style of synthesis.

Sample playback synthesis, on the other hand, starts in a tightly
controlled recording studio with a quality instrument, a skilled
performer, and a painstaking and tedious process to try to get multiple
samples to sound like one instrument. Once you end up with a good set
of samples of an instrument, you have a fine musical tool, but it's
still got a long way to go before it's musically useful as part of an
ensemble. A sample is just a recording of a single event. It has no
more expressive flexibility than CD recording of a performance.

maps have to be applied, controllers have to be designed, and if the
instrment was multisampled, elaborate crossfades have to be built. This
takes even longer than recording, and the end result is something that
usually will work on only one instrument; each manufacturer has a
different sound synthesis architecture, so a complete performance for a
Yamaha is completely incompatible with a Roland. Most manufacturers now
provide expansion boards with samples and control data stored together.
Romplers are designed so that the user doesn't have to worry about the
samples he or she is using.

What I'm getting at is that a good sample is only a starting point for
a musician that wants good orchestral sounds. A good synthesizer, in
the Moog/Arp/Nord sense, generates a rich, textured sound that is full
of life and allows a performer to express, not simply play, a part. The
same is true of a sample-playback synth. You don't want the same exact
noise every single time you hit the same note.

I'm partial to Roland's XV/SRX sounds. Some of Yamaha's sounds are
nicer when you solo them IMO, but I've found that the Rolands blend
better in a mix while Yamaha's tend to step on each other without
careful adjustment.