Exporting file to 31/2 11 mins

Exporting file to 31/2 11 mins

Post by Wayn » Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:34:21


Whats it with this exporting a RTF file, around 70K, to floppy taking 11
minutes but only a couple of seconds when exporting to hard disk? When I
copy the RTF file to the floppy it takes less than a minute (probably less
than 30 seconds). I've noticed that my disks get corrupt sometimes when
doing this export proceadure.

Thanks

Wayne.

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Post by John Howar » Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:28:00

Hi Wayne,

Interesting. Same thing happens to me here. But it doesn't when
exporting to Word. I can't explain it right now, but I'm putting it on
the list of things to check out.

In the meanwhile, I guess the old doctor's advice to his patient who
said "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." applies. The doc said "Then
don't do that."

John ;-)

 
 
 

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Post by Wayn » Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:55:19

I did not want to sound insulting, but I guess is that the program is
using the floppy disk as temporary work space (really bad programming
practice) for the proceadure. It could be that a different person wrote
the RTF routine from the MS-word one. If it is so then maybe the rest of
their work needs to be checked. I don't know about the trashing of the
disk, maybe rewriting one sector continously for 11 minmutes causes it.

Thanks again John

Wayne.








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Post by Wayn » Mon, 22 Dec 2003 01:59:28

I have noticed a few things with the ISA GUI interface of Breadbox and
it's predecessors, and I can't seem to find the disk check/repair I
remember from 2.1.

For instance when you do something like export a write file you have to
type in the new name (after you delete the "unamed" text in the filename
box). The text box doesn't uatomatically select the automatic "unamed"
text for deletion, allow you to select an existing file name from the file
list, or automatically give the existing file name stripped of extension,
like windows can. There is also no "send to A drive" sort of left button
menue item. These little type of things would make it easier to work
with. I found this to be the case in BEOS, even though it was great at
certain things it still needed minor improvements to help the processs
move along compared to Windows.

Are you guys open to a public session where people in this newsgroup can
list most needed/desired minor improvements (no Java;) in a "Minor
Ensemble Improvements thread"?

Thanks

Wayne.







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Post by Edwar » Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:07:52

Hi Wayne,

Don't know if I get this right or if this will satisfy you.
For your -send to- question:
1- Look at Gene's Tvatter for BackdoorMan(Konstantin Meyer)
It adds a plug-in in the Utilities menu of GeoManager for an OPEN WITH
option and also a SEND TO (copy)option.
Konstantin added some info about how to add your own folders and drives to
the SEND TO option.
Very nice work.
2. But also in Writer you can use a Send To option! In File\Other\Move To
you can send it to any drive or folder you want, although you move it in
stead of copy. :-(

Edward Nijs


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Post by John Howar » Tue, 23 Dec 2003 03:28:05

i Wayne,

Wayne wrote:

Hmmm... I don't recall anyhting like that. I just checked my copy of
Geoworks Ensemble 2.01 and see nothing like a disk check or repair program.


Yes, that's a nice touch that happes in many other parts of Ensemble.
It's now on my list.


Well, having the existing file name stripped of extension hilighted in
the new name field isn't a workable move since Geos long names don't
have any extension and the underlying DOS name of the Writer file has a
.00x extension tacked on the first eight characters of the Geos long
name. And those first eight characters have a high probability of not
being suitable for the exported fiile name. You'll also notice that the
export file choices are all DOS file types (more or less). And since we
don't know whether the OS on which you're running Ensemble can do long
file or names the save as is restricted to the old 8.3 naming convention.


Right, there isn't. But there's a drive pull down list at the top right
of the file selector. All right there in the Expot/Save As dialog
box. No extra menus to click on.


I guess what some folks would call improvements are just extra stuff to
other folks. And vice versa. That's why we have two diffierent Look
and Feel choices with several customizations available for each.


Absolutely!

John ;-)


 
 
 

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Post by Wayn » Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:01:11

n Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:28:05 -0800, John Howard < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote:

It was not a seperate program but a menue item, I will have to reinstall
it one day to have a look.

Yes this is one of the reasons I never went to newdeal office, when I
tried it I was continuallty frustrated by all the little things I had to
do by hand instead. One had something to do with going up and down
directories to get to where I wanted to go, I think each time you saved
you were put back to the document directory rather than the last filename
and directory you used, things of that nature.


Sorry I meant the rtf, doc, wpd extendions saved with different word pro
formats, so would just cursor right and type the new extension, or the
program put it in when choose export type. Being able to display modern
long file names is good too.

One thing frustratingly missing in many word processors is the ability to
stay in a given wordprocessing format without manually
importing/exporting. My wordperfect also allows you to select the export
format in the save dialogue (file type). Where once the file is opened in
it's correct format (imported) it can optionally automactically import
from that format when open across shutdowns and allways export back to
that format during a save. So the alteration is: open (import) to
Geowrite format edits/shutdowns, save (export) to native format, otherwise
the same internal code is used as before. They probably didn't do these
things with the ISA interface beacause it would confuse existing users too
much, but a transition help check box on the level selector to show dummy
menue items in place of the missing export and imports, where they open
the replacement opotion and a help ballon message advises people to go to
that replacement options instead in this new version, probably would have
solved this.


Maybe if you had a tick box, or setup option to enable windows long file
name use, or recognition. Tehre are only three levels Windows long file
names exclusive, Geos standard, and a mixtue of the two depending on
wherever the file allready uses it or the user selcts it to be used
instead.


Thats right, but when you want to work fast and smoothly these sort of
minor improvements (standard in windows and office) come in real handy. I
think the real trest is to train up a range of people to use geowrite and
show them the new feature, they allready competnt in the old features if
they think it's great and they wouldn't want to do without it then it may
be a really good feature.


Well give me a week or too and I might start up a post askign for minor
interface improvements to Breadbox, or you guys can do it instead. It
will probably produce results nearly as good as hiring program testers.


Thanks

Wayne.

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Post by Wayn » Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:08:45

Wow thanks,

That does really help, I have a lot of stuff off that site but it will be
weeks and weeks before I can get around to installing it (I have finsihed
my essays and my sue of Breadbox for a while).

Maybe Breadbox could pay some of these people to integrate their code
(with changes to suit Breadbox's desired look and feel for ensemble of
course) into a future version and patch ;) of Breadbox, it probably may be
a lot cheaper than getting a programmer to rewrite it.




Thanks

Wayne.
 
 
 

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Post by Jens-Micha » Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:45:35

Hi Wayne,

back in the time where a floppy disk was necessary to store data away
from my 105MB HD, I had Norton Cache (for DOS, of course) installed.
It was delaying writes to the disk and cacheing reads. Moreover, it was
reordering writes so that it would write data on the same track first
(to reduce stepping) and it removed duplicate writes (when data was
overwritten again and again like in the VM file directory or the disk
FAT).
This way I was able to use a floppy almost as fast as the HD. It was
even possible to open files from disk and use/alter them without growing
old while waiting for the disk :)

Grossibaer

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Post by Wayn » Fri, 16 Jan 2004 23:18:24

Good, but something that should have been standard, but with MS so slack
everybody can afford to be
:(

Thanks

Wayne.

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