: Where are these jobs ? I've looked on all of the major boards
: like Dice and Monster and I've seen no evidence of any DOS jobs.
I didn't say there were DOS jobs, the people who
use DOS do so because it doesn't cost so much and they
may be able to do sone of it themselves.
: I haven't seen any 80x86 assembly language jobs either.
Have you checked out ISPs, most have an employment
section on their main page.
: As far as I know, assembly language is really only used
: by BIOS companies nowadays and Phoenix isn't hiring.
A lot of software is in assembly, but once the
routines for the standard display on a PC are written
it doesn't take much to update it.
: As for C, most of the jobs aren't pure C but some
: object-oriented form of C and I really hate the
: object-oriented nonsense.
It would be awful if you had to take a job
you wouldn't like. :-)
: Frankly the dumbing down of software development with
: object-oriented "programming" is what allowed programming
: jobs to be outsourced
I think the job problem has more to do with the
standardization of the PC and the enormous amount of
source code already written for windows.
Add this to the number of small one man shareware
and trialware developers, possibly as many as half the
people that own a PC, and there just isn't the work
available any more.
: Anyway my specialty is assembly language and I know
: real C (no suffix) as well. I've done BIOS, DOS, and other
: low-level programming on the PC in real and protected mode.
I suppose there are several hundred thousand
programmers that lost their good jobs because of the
standardized PC and the fact that everybody has one.
But there are companies that need programmers
that innovate and create original work from their own
The good software like ACDsee, Forte' Agent,
CaptureEZpro, and all the free software that comes
with motherboards, devices, drives and cameras have
pretty much made PC software plentiful without any
new companies starting up, or old companies hiring.
So the jobs are probably at ISPs, not doing
exclusively programming, and other companies that
need a lot of work done that requires experience.
Try searching google for anything connected
with computers and see if the companies coming up
in the searches have an employment page.
Also, companies using or developing for unix
or linux may have more jobs for C programmers than
Chances are the headhunters have lists of
people wanting jobs a mile long, so to get a job
in computers it may take a lot of work checking
out individual companies.
Also it would be prudent to just seek an
office job where they need somebody that can solve
a problem and get a machine going, any job is
better than none.
Online boards is the lazy way, and most
likely everybody looking for work tries that first.
The way to get a job is buy a Sunday paper
and get up early monday morning and apply in person
dressed up for Sunday School.
The papers don't have much the other days,
the Sunday paper has it all.