DSL with OS/2?

DSL with OS/2?

Post by mailNOT4Bo » Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:24:51


DSL is not available in my area from my ISP - AT&T. My
local phone company does have DSL. I would like to keep
my current ISP but install DSL. Is this possible? If
so, what software do I need, and how do I install?

Thanks for any help.

Bob
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DSL with OS/2?

Post by William L. » Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:12:11

Sir:



If your DSL modem uses ethernet to connect to your host machine, then
the only question is: Does your NIC work? If the amswer is yes, then
your DSL modem will work. The choice of ISP is not yours to make, but
is the choice of the provider of DSL service. However, there is nothing
to stop you from paying AT&T for an account and using AT&T as your home
page and e-mail provider, if you wish to spend extra. That would be no
different than using Yahoo or MSN-hot mail.

As to making the connection work under OS/2, you'll need to install the
LAN support software that comes with all OS/2 versions since Warp 3
Connect. You'll need drivers for your ethernet NIC. Don't get an
internal DSL card as most do not come with OS/2 drivers. Also, do not
get a DSL modem that uses USB, as most don't come with OS/2 endpoint
drivers.

Good Luck.
--
Bill
Thanks a Million!

 
 
 

DSL with OS/2?

Post by mailNOT4Bo » Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:22:30

In message <c1.2b5.2smTZg$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM > - "William L.
Hartzell" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > writes:


Thanks, Bill.

Since AT&T told me that they no longer support OS/2 (in fact, when
I told them I used OS/2, the lady at the other end said that I
should move to some other ISP), I would most likely have to go
with SBC. However, they are clueless about OS/2, too, so I have
to do all this on my own, and I am not knowledgable about getting
it going.

Has anyone done this? If so, I would appreciate any help. For
example, where do I get "ethernet NIC" drivers? What about
"Firewalls?" I think I can get the LAN support installed, but
if I did, during my change over to DSL, would I still be able to
dial-in? Is there such a thing as a list of software that needs
to be installed? I am using POSTROAD Mailer. Will that still
work with DSL or must I use soome web brower mailer?

As you can see, I am pretty clueless myself.

Tbanks for any input.
Bob
 
 
 

DSL with OS/2?

Post by Mark Kleba » Sat, 18 Sep 2004 05:06:27

Pretty much everyone says they don't support OS/2. Still, many
(probably most) network cards have os/2 drivers, particularly if you
stick to the name brands like 3com and intel. If you buy one of those
cards, it's possible that the driver disk will have os/2 drivers and if
not you can download them from the 3com or intel websites respectively.
As long as the DSL company uses an external modem you are home free.

I confess that i wasn't paying attention to the beginning of the thread,
but for what it's worth most DSL providers in North America use PPPoe
(point to point protocol over ethernet) as their logon/transport. F/x
communications makes a pppoe client for os/2, as well as a firewall.
However, you can save yourself the trouble and buy a broadband router
like the linksys that includes a hardware firewall and a pppoe client.
Then you just hook up the router to the dsl modem, hook the computer's
nic to the router, tell the nic to obtain its internet address
automatically via dhcp (dynamic host configuration protocol) and you're
off and running.

Installing the card in warp isn't hard. It's just a question of going
to the mpts configuration page, installing the driver for the card, and
attaching tcpip to the card, enabling the interfact, activating dhcp and
rebooting. A google web search will amost certainly find a website with
detailed instructions complete with screenshots. It's a lot easier to
look at those than to try to explain it here.
 
 
 

DSL with OS/2?

Post by Will Hone » Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:58:26

n Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:22:30 UTC XXXX@XXXXX.COM wrote:


Next time, fib and tell them you use Linux <g>. All you really need
is a DSL modem that will work with the ILEC you select, be it ATT, SBC
or the devil himelf (don't they all come close to being one and the
same???). The DSL modem must be an external device that connects to
the computer/hub/router/LAN (which translates to being you the user -
nothing mysterious there) using an ehternet link. The only other link
I've seen lately has been a USB connection - avoid those since OS/2
USB support for it is likely not there. The unit I have combines the
DSL modem, router, DNS server, firewall, and a few other functions in
one box. My son wound up with a separate modem-only unit but trust me
- you DO want that router/hub/firewall between the DSL modem and your
tender computer.

Ok, the Ethernet NIC is a card that plugs in and can be bought about
anywhere. Most name brand NICs (Network Interface Card) already have
drivers available in OS/2 when you install - it's just a matter of
picking your's from a list during setup if the OS/2 install doesn't
find it when you install networking. I usually use 3Com or Intel NICS
and get the 3Com 3c905 or Intel Pro 100 cards for $5-$10 at the local
recycling store. I personally don't like Dlink stuff for several
reasons, but about any card that uses the a Realtek chip set is
probably pretty safe.

The DSL modem will take care of all the "dialing" and negotiation but
you are better off getting one that has everything included since it
will take care of all the nitpicking setup and logon options. The one
I have is an Actiontec GT710 that even includes a wireless access
point should you need that. For $59 from Qwest (cheaper places can be
found on the web, but this was convienient) it covers all the bases.
Once you get your network card installed with TCPIP running (if you
are using a dialup modem now, you probably have all you need already
running except for installing the NIC) connect your computer to the
DSL set with an ethernet cable and point a web browser at the DSL
local address - usually 192.168.0.1, 192.168.1.1 or some such (it will
be in the simple instruction manual) and that will take you thru all
the configuration you need to do - usually pretty minimal. That's
about it other than some network addresses you may have to set up. If
you set up OS/2 to use DHCP for ip assignment even that hassle goes
away.

There is NOTHING os-specific about DSL other than some internal or USB
modems which require drivers that are chancy at best - stay away.

If you want to use an ISP other than the phone company that supplies
the line, you'll have to find one that has an arrangement with that
provider. Basically, it's a routing issue on the phone company side
where they contract to provide a route (port) to certain ISP's for a
fee. Call around to the local ISP's and see who might have such an
arrangement. MSN is heavy into promos where they offer a package
price for the DSL connection and ISP services but here there must be a
dozen local ISP's that have DSL access thru Qwest. In my case, it was
cheapest to use Qwest for the DSL and ISP but I made a deal with my
old dialup ISP for email-only accounts on his server for something
like $5 a month to avoid all the address changing hassle and to be
able to swap ISP's instantly when all the promo deals came
 
 
 

DSL with OS/2?

Post by William L. » Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:27:13

Sir:


<snip>>

Just about 100% of ISP are clue-less about OS/2. You have to tell them
that you are using Linux. The facts that you need are the usual two DNS
addy (in doted address form- xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx), a news and a mail server
addys (in name form - news.sbc.net), and the all important gateway addy
(again in dot address form). You'll need to know if they use DHCP to
dynamically assign your IP or if your IP is static. Most are using the
dynamic form and you just enable DHCP to get it. Static addresses
require you to have your dotted address and to enter it manually in the
configuration program. Since many ISP have switched to using the
Microsoft friendly ppoe protocol, instead of standard TCP/IP, it would
be best to buy a cheap router box like Dlink or any of a dozen others
that have a firewall and ppoe client (about $15-30). These usually come
with NAT & a DHCP server that allows your internal network to
automatically be configured. You will need to configure the firewall in
the router box, as most are now configured to allow nothing through
until you allow something. Look in the services file in \mptn\etc to
find the ports you want to allow open. Google on my name back a few
years for a sample firewall configuration file and the reasoning behind
my choices. You should not depend upon the firewall protection of the
router, but instead get more protection in the form of a firewall for
each OS/2 and each Windows box. Newer versions of OS/2 AND Windows have
firewall built into their TCP/IP stack. AV software is a must for all
Windows boxes, still. Both DSL and Cable are always on connections.
This means that whenever your computer is running, you are connected to
the Internet and are available to be cracked. Cable, unlike DSL, is a
shared medium, in that all your neighbors are on your connection and
they are local to your internal network. Your Firewall is your only
protection from snoopy neighbors. BTW, cable is ten times or more
faster than DSL, here in the US, on downloads for about the same price
per month.
--
Bill
Thanks a Million!
 
 
 

DSL with OS/2?

Post by Trevor Hem » Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:34:08

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:22:30 UTC in comp.os.os2.setup.misc,



Ask 'em whether they support TCP/IP instead.

--
Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK.
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