IBM's Auto PA Renewal Ticks Off eCS Lusers

IBM's Auto PA Renewal Ticks Off eCS Lusers

Post by The OS/2 G » Sun, 27 Feb 2005 08:26:17


It is quite pleasing to see two of the infamous eCS Salesmen,
including Mr. *** himself, running about like chickens with their
heads cut off over the IBM announcement that Passport Advantage
subscriptions will be automatically renewed. Marty with his silly
claims that IBM is killing off OS/2 [again]. *** with his claim
that his virtual outhouse storefront will somehow receive an IBM
miracle and see a renewal of his OS/2 OEM contract. And the
familiar eCS salesman with a new sockpuppet while posting out
of Supernews with his NON-eCS system (WindowsXP no less).

These eCs Lusers are not only desperate but they are sadly pathetic.

--
Tim Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.yqcomputer.com/
email: XXXX@XXXXX.COM OR XXXX@XXXXX.COM
 
 
 

IBM's Auto PA Renewal Ticks Off eCS Lusers

Post by The OS/2 G » Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:40:52


Lessee.. Preview was $99. eCS v1.0 was $300. eCS v1.1 was $300.
eCS v1.2 was and remains $300. Total cost for just three years of
scamming: $999 aka $1,000plus with shipping.

I'd rather pay the $10-$50 yearly subscription fee to Passport
Advantage and get a *real* operating system supported by
a *real* company with storefronts all over America selling
a product within the U.S. borders.


You already do that, you just give it a new version number
for the same old piece of *** you been pushing from Day One.


No need to consider it, you've already done it and then some.

--
Tim Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.yqcomputer.com/
email: XXXX@XXXXX.COM OR XXXX@XXXXX.COM

 
 
 

IBM's Auto PA Renewal Ticks Off eCS Lusers

Post by Bob StJoh » Sun, 27 Feb 2005 13:36:18


Automatically, perhaps .. but not at 'no charge'. So, I guess I should
take your advice, wise up and move people to 1.2, Then charge them for a
12 month maintenance agreement.

OK .. if you say that's more reasonable, I'll consider it.

Regards,
Bob St.John
Serenity Systems
 
 
 

IBM's Auto PA Renewal Ticks Off eCS Lusers

Post by The OS/2 G » Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:00:46


So what you're admitting here is that all six sales of eCS you've
been lucky enough to con have taken place at "show specials".
Meansys, your only distributor and outside the U.S. consumer
jurisdiction in faraway "The Netherlands" is still trying to sell the
eCS package at over $300.

Thanks for this revealing moment and thanks for continue to
return which is caused by your fear the six eCS Lusers you
currently have are going to bolt over to IBM and sign up for
a free Passport Advantage with it's easy yearly OS/2 renewal.

That's got to have you eating Tums right about now...
--
Tim Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.yqcomputer.com/
email: XXXX@XXXXX.COM OR XXXX@XXXXX.COM
 
 
 

IBM's Auto PA Renewal Ticks Off eCS Lusers

Post by Bob StJoh » Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:41:03

he OS/2 Guy wrote:
<snip>

Whoa, cowboy! LOL ... Come with me to yesteryear where we join two OS/2
Warp 4 users. One is attending WarpTech in Arizona in May 2000 where she
opts to buy eComStation 1.0 for a show special of $79. She receives a
preview based on IBM's first yet to be released convenience pack.

Nobody "bought" the Preview .. it wasn't for sale. Folks bought 1.0 and
received the Preview as a place holder. The Preview included the yet to
be released Convenience Packm which would require a SWC subscription
($180), also HOBlink X11 (SRP about $200), Smart Suite ($180 for the
upgrade price, more for new users), InJoy dialer (what .. $40 to $60).

So, the Warp 4 user buying eComStation at WarpTech spent less that $100,
got quite a package of software, nice if she needed it, and is still
entitled to no charge udpates. The other Warp 4 user got SWC for $180.
In May of 2002, would have had to buy SWC again, another $180. in May
2004 .. gonna have to buy something again .. SWC for a third $180? or
the support agreement through PA .. once in 2004 and again in 2005 for
$120 (two renewals).

So, the IBM offering would cost that user about $500 up to the point ..
but the eComStation user paid less than $100 .. and the eComStation user
gets the same IBM updates, drivers, and fixes.

eComStation user .. $100 .. IBM distribution, about $500. That's the
fact, Jack. In addition to the IBM updagtes, which were provided at no
extra charge, eComStation users have had the option of some upgrades.
Many have seen the value of the upgrades, but the user wasn't faced with
the churn of an expiration date and renewal.

You seem to have grossly exaggerated the cost of eComStation . $100 in
2000, still active today, while misrepresenting the IBM offering
available from 2000 to 2004, SWC, $180 for two years.

If someone wants to get the IBM distribution, more power to them. I
think the current PA offering is better than what was available in years
past. But folks who read the strategy put out by IBM understand that IBM
is saying no upgrades, no new features. Maintenance only. That is the
story IBM put on its web site.

SSI is continuing to invest in and upgrade eComStation. Users are free
to assign their own value to that. You want to assign a negagtive value,
it's up to you. But many OS/2 users, this being an OS/2 newsgroup, see
value.

The recent voting by real OS/2 users is the third time eComStation was
voted best commercial software of the year by OS/2 users. Third time it
received the honor. And the products which came in second and third are
included in the eComStation distribution. And while something like
InnoTek's excellent WebPack is freely available for personal use. The
eComStation license removes the personal use restriction ...

So, as we used to say, that's for this marketing moment.

Regards,
Bob St.John
Serenity Systems International