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Post by Colin Camp » Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:01:26



This post is _supposed_ to be in comp.os.os2.setup, as opposed to the
drivel that has been posted for the past 10 days or so. But you are
ruining the newsgroup for the idiots by actually using it to get
questions answered.

I don't have answers for your questions, I'm sorry to say. However,
with regard to NICs, if you need the same kind of card that is needed
for say a so-called "cable modem", I don't think you can go wrong with
Intel Pro/100 or Pro/1000 units. They cost a bit, but they work, and
they still have OS/2 drivers.
 
 
 

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Post by John Varel » Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:57:06

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:01:26 UTC, Colin Campbell < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >




I don't know where you're posting from, since this was crossposted to
comp.os.os2.misc, comp.os.os2.networking.misc, and comp.os.os2.setup.misc,
and separately posted to ecomstation.support.networking, which should cover
all the bases. The consensus opinion is to use a bridge, and I have ordered
one from Amazon.


Now I need to select a NIC. If the Intels are still sold and have OS/2
drivers that sounds good. Are there other cards with OS/2 drivers? Do the
OS/2 drivers come in the box with the Intel NIC or do they have to be
downloaded from somewhere? (If the latter, I'd like to check the site to
make sure they are still there.)

--
John Varela
(Trade "OLD" lamps for "NEW" for email.)

 
 
 

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Post by James J. W » Sat, 30 Jul 2005 05:52:27


Every nic I have ever purchased came with either a floppy or cd containing
drivers. Chuck McKinnis(sp?) has a website with info on which nics have os/2
drivers that work. I have always made sure the nic I bought was on the list.
There are lots of them.

Look on the disk (using ZTree for example) for file(s) with an os2 extension.
That'll be the driver. In the same directory (or subtree) you should also find
a nif file and a protocol.ini file. If you find more than one instance of a nif
file associated with an os2 driver, generally one that is only a few hundred
bytes is some kind of stub that you should ignore. Use nif that has a size of
several thousand bytes and the driver that goes with it. Both the nif and
protocol.ini are text files that you can look at with a file viewer. A quick
glance usually suffices to pick out the right one. I think they put more than
one version on the disk to confuse the opposition, whoever that may be.

Typically the driver will be found in a subtree with a name like NDIS, NDIS2,
OS2, or MSLANMAN.OS2.

Each manufacturer seems to do it a little differently but a little snooping
around usually pays off.

Once you figure out the path, point the configuration program at it and the name
of the adapter should appear as an installable option.

YMMV.
 
 
 

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Post by Percival P » Sat, 30 Jul 2005 06:17:21

Note, however, that manufacturers don't always update their drivers to
suit a new hardware design. Both D-Link and Linksys NICs (especially
more recent ones) often come with OS/2 drivers that don't work with that
version of the NIC. In that case it's necesssary to get a driver from
the chip manufacturer.

Perce


On 07/28/05 04:52 pm James J. Weinkam tossed the following ingredients
into the ever-growing pot of *** soup:
 
 
 

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Post by Daniel Jon » Sat, 30 Jul 2005 10:11:44


Intel PRO/100 cards (many variants of this card) are what you want, they
are easily found, inexpensive, and well supported by Intel.

Linksys - is pure consumer-grade nonsense, avoid any of their products
(I know many here will diagree). Their OS2 support is nowhere, there
devices are cheap and "for the masses".

Intel has business customers that use OS2 on their servers, and all
(well, almost all) IBM servers ship with Intel PRO/100 (or 1000)
Ethernet devices onboard. So, they continue to update their drivers
for OS2 regularly...
 
 
 

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Post by John Varel » Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:33:07


I found a PRO/100 S, supposedly brand new, on eBay buy-it-now for $1.99. In
my book that counts as inexpensive, even after adding in the $5.95 shipping
cost. I've also downloaded what I expect is a current driver from the Intel
web site.

So I think I'm all set to go as soon as the hardware arrives in the mail.

Thanks to all who responded to my query.

--
John Varela
(Trade "OLD" lamps for "NEW" for email.)
 
 
 

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Post by Ted Edward » Sun, 31 Jul 2005 04:33:23


Which of their devices are you refering to? I have a Linksys router
that was easy to set up and has given no trouble since I got it about a
year ago.

Ted
 
 
 

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Post by Peter Brow » Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:16:55

Hi Ted





Anything that needs drivers I would guess - I think the poster was
referring to the fact that Linksys are a bit lax about making sure that
OS/2 drivers are available for whatever chipset is used on the current
LNE100TX nic.

Difficult to muck up hardware that does not need drivers such as routers
:-)

Regards

Pete
 
 
 

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Post by Martin Tns » Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:37:05

Captain's log. On StarDate Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:33:23 GMT received comm from Ted
Edwards < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > on channel comp.os.os2.misc:


: > Linksys - is pure consumer-grade nonsense, avoid any of their products
: > (I know many here will diagree). Their OS2 support is nowhere, there
: > devices are cheap and "for the masses".
:
: Which of their devices are you refering to? I have a Linksys router
: that was easy to set up and has given no trouble since I got it about a
: year ago.

Same here. For my home network I have the Linksys Cisco RV082 router who has
excellent performance and features (it has also won many tests for this).

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

Highly recommended.

Best regards,

martin

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Post by Jack Willi » Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:17:07


What Linksys router (model number?) would work with my laptop with the
OS/2 Convenience Pack installed? I scheduled an installation
appointment then cancelled after they said their service would only work
with WindowsXP. Would do I need to get from the Comcast people and what
do I need to get the router to connect? If I let them set it up under
WindowsXP using my laptop then boot into OS/2, would the same router
cable into the Ethernet port work under OS/2 or are there special steps
that need to be made? I have trouble setting up a dial up connection
and broadband is a hurtle to overcome.
 
 
 

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Post by Percival P » Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:48:08

I've used a Linksys WRT54G wireless/wired router/switch with both
Optimum Online (NY Metro area ISP) and Charter cable Internet services
(both of which offically support only Windozze and Mac) and configured
the router (and even upgraded its firmware) using Mozilla running on
OS/2 (actually eComStation, but it shouldn't make any difference).

These routers are actually Linux-based computers.

I set up the router to allocate IP addresses using DHCP, then I set up
each machine to use a specific IP address within the range being
allocated by the router.

Give a yell if you need further help.

Perce


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Post by Daniel Jon » Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:15:18


Every device they make, that I have used - which includes a PCMCIA
Ethernet card, a couple of PCI Ethernet cards - and a Linksys 8 port
Cable/DSL Router.

I won't go into the details, but they all either failed outright, or
their performance was almost non-existant compared to other hardware
vendors. I hear that some Linksys products work OK for folks in the
OS/2 world, and I think it's terrific that they did not face the
difficulties with them that I did. But for my money, Linksys means
poor quality and downright comical support for OS/2...

Intel networks cards, on the other hand, flat-out scream in OS/2. I
have supported literally *thousands* of OS/2 systems professionally
running Intel PRO/100 cards...never saw *one* so much as blink. And
for Linksys, I never saw one *work* correctly for an extended period
of time.
 
 
 

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Post by Martin Tns » Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:02:53

Captain's log. On StarDate Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:15:18 -0400 received comm from
Daniel Jones < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > on channel comp.os.os2.misc:

: Every device they make, that I have used - which includes a PCMCIA
: Ethernet card, a couple of PCI Ethernet cards - and a Linksys 8 port

For network cards I don't have any idea how they perform. I'm very conservative
and only use NICs from 3Com and Intel. Not interested in any other brand.

: OS/2 world, and I think it's terrific that they did not face the
: difficulties with them that I did. But for my money, Linksys means
: poor quality and downright comical support for OS/2...

Their routers (at least their more professional 19" rackable series that I
prefer to use) has a very high performance and quality. Can't speak about their
non business line, but I have actually only heard good of them as well (but
can't confirm that personally). I know that their wireless home routers are
*very popular* among hackers and people who wan't much quality for their cash.

While I haven't used them specifically with OS/2 I don't think it should be any
problem to use them as a gateway. You don't need any software for this, and can
simply configure it with http or telnet.

The only potential problem I see is if you want to use the VPN features (as it
has great VPN support, and handles up to 50 incoming VPN connections) as I don't
know how well that works with OS/2.

: Intel networks cards, on the other hand, flat-out scream in OS/2. I
: have supported literally *thousands* of OS/2 systems professionally
: running Intel PRO/100 cards...never saw *one* so much as blink. And

I agree about Intel. Look at 3Com as well.

Those are the only vendors I care to buy any type of NIC from (too lazy and have
too little time to experiment with other brands).

martin

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Post by William L. » Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:39:47

Sir:


These technicians all come with their own laptops. If need be, they can
setup your modem/router and register it with Comcast using their laptop.
If you do this, have them configure it to give you DHCP addresses.
Then after they have gone, you can go into the modem/router and change
it to suit your needs. I've had no problem using Mozilla or Netscape to
connect to the router's web page at the default address. Since these
are all Linux operating systems, and if you are a Linux guru, you can
even telnet into the router and use the command line interface (shell
interface). One of the first things I would do is go to the
manufacturer's web site and download the latest firmware for the router
and install it. Then configure it. The only thing that Comcast wants
is the MAC address of the device that connects to their network, so that
they can do MAC lookups to authorize your connection. But their process
requires exchange of keys to prove that it is you giving this
infomation, for which they have created a XP program that trades this
info in encrypted form. You know that if you don't want the technician
to bother you, you can do this registration on the telphone using
Mozilla and OS/2. I did that a few years ago when Comcast required
everyone to change modems. I have separate modem, router, switch. The
modem is leased.
--
Bill
Thanks a Million!