Persons of "dubious existence" (Was Major new virus attack)

Persons of "dubious existence" (Was Major new virus attack)

Post by dgs » Tue, 07 Oct 2003 06:19:00


In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310052111530.11898-100000@dms1>,




Couldn't agree more. We're now three to four years after this software
demonstration *did* take place, and still this nonsense goes on...

It was already incredibly dull (not to mention untrue) when the original
allegations were made public however many years ago.


Splendid idea. Consider it done.


I was thinking more of paintball ;-)

(My nearest paintball venue has a quite pleasant tavern nearby as well, if
you're so very keen to engage in fisti *** in the car park...)

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Persons of "dubious existence" (Was Major new virus attack)

Post by Paul F. Jo » Tue, 07 Oct 2003 06:27:36

Hi,

By the process of poking various fingers onto keys dgs generated this:




Then why do you keep bringing it up? No, don't bother answering, you'll
blame Tony for something you may have heard across a crowded bar by
someone called John, though it may have been Don or someone saying Gone
and then after having one too many, decide that you'd been threatend by a
chap who due to illness has trouble leaving his house, let alone knock yer
block off.

It's duller than cabbage soup.

TTFN

Paul

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Post by David Hold » Tue, 07 Oct 2003 16:09:11


In an attempt to make this more interesting, could you tell us more
about this cabbage soup, please?

Exactly what type of cabbages make the best soup?

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Post by Paul F. Jo » Wed, 08 Oct 2003 04:23:32

Hi,

By the process of poking various fingers onto keys David Holden generated
this:


Some of the African varieties make for a very odd flavour, but it is a
flavour. The worst (as always) are French cabbages - wet, tasteless and
leave you as under-enthralled as a wet weekend in Bognor...

A good hearty English cabbage, fresh picked, finely chopped and seasoned
with a small amount of white pepper (freshly ground) makes for quite an
edifying soup. Whack in a couple of spuds and it's quite filling as well.

TTFN

Paul

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Persons of "dubious existence" (Was Major new virus attack)

Post by Lionel Smi » Wed, 08 Oct 2003 06:22:09

In article <blr4er$ek92l$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,




Houghton's Choice. ;-)

Lionel

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Post by dgs » Thu, 09 Oct 2003 04:17:52

n article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,
Tony Houghton < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote:


It "wasn't true" only on the same evidence we have for "Don Turnbull
received faxes from MAUG", or "MAUG tried to persuade RGSC to part company
with Tony Houghton".

And we all know what happened to those allegations, I think!

So you can guess for yourself what I think of this particular claim of
yours.


Eh?


You're suggesting that Don Turnbull reads this group? Having spoken to
him on the telephone at length once, and met him a couple of times too, I
very much imagine he has better things to do with his time.


!!!


There have been thousands, if not tens of thousands of Argonet users.
Keeping track of exactly which individual user (and/or their imaginary
crimes) Tony Houghton thinks he's talking about at any one time, is next
to impossible.


No, no, slow down Tony. Your vague but angry hand-waving isn't convincing
anyone. Who are "these people" in this particular context?


Too many negatives, too much fluffiness. What *are* you talking about?


Libel by faxes, or just fluffy libel?


I'm still wondering what "dubious existence" means here. You've decided
that anyone who disagrees with you might not actually exist?

I think that says quite a lot about your state of mind...


They do? I think not.

The majority of MAUG committee members originally thought that the
RiscStation Information Minister visiting MAUG to promote your software
was a good idea. I do know that most of them had occasion to rethink that
judgement, following the nastiness after the meeting had
already happened.


MAUG never reneged on anything. Nor would I have wished MAUG to do so.


MAUG never let RGSC down. Nor would I have wished MAUG to do so.


The suggestion that Paul F Johnson could receive a percentage of sales
value of items sold at MAUG, was made in an email with message id
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM >.

I am entirely happy to repost that email here in full (including
headers), if Don Turnbull thinks it appropriate that I should do so.


Your various speculations about MAUG's rules, membership rules, different
classes of member and all the rest of it, have been fascinating. And I
thank you for the amusement.

But none of them are relevant.

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Persons of "dubious existence" (Was Major new virus attack)

Post by dgs » Thu, 09 Oct 2003 04:20:37

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,



No!

Oh, go on then :-)


No idea, but since you (an Argonet user) fall into one of Tony's
categories of "persons of dubious existence", don't expect anything you
say to be taken too seriously ;-)

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Post by Tony Hough » Thu, 09 Oct 2003 09:30:53

In < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,



So you do categorise all Argonet users as your disciples...

I hope I don't realise my keyboard's imaginary. ;-)

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Post by Tony Hough » Thu, 09 Oct 2003 10:13:10

n < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,
dgs < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote:


Exactly. We both know it's untrue, but you're confident you can get away
with it because Don doesn't take you seriously.


The suggestion that the MAUG committee posted a mesage deliberately
containing untruths was made in an email with message id
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM >. I am entirely happy to repost that email
here in full (including headers), if you think it appropriate that I
should do so.


No, there's a big difference between certain bizarre people all being
Argonet users and all Argonet users being bizarre.


And very much hope, too.


By usenet.


No, but when I spoke to an alleged member of the MAUG committee he said
that it doesn't really exist and references to it are made when it's
convenient to give the outward appearance that MAUG is more official
than it really is. Not that there's anything wrong with that, except
when a member tries to use its alleged existence to intimidate.


It's the nastiness before the meeting started that's more important.


I'm fully aware that the promotion went ahead as planned, but I'm also
aware that you tried to stop it. That's contrary to the wishes you now
express. I also wonder why it's taken you 3 years to deny trying to
prevent the promotion and deny that any MAUG member sent an email to Don
about it.


So now you're saying there were no rules about whether MAUG members
should receive commissions for products sold at MAUG? So what grounds
are there for your allegations about kickbacks?

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Post by Steven Pam » Fri, 10 Oct 2003 04:08:03


Me, taken seriously?
Oh, dear what would the world be coming to?

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Post by dgs » Sat, 11 Oct 2003 01:57:05

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,



That's curious, because you subsequently told the entire MAUG committee
that you had replied to it. True to form, you chose not to Cc that reply
to the MAUG committee so that anyone actually knew what was going on...

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Post by dgs » Sat, 11 Oct 2003 01:59:52

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,



Pluto will allow people to killfile the thread, sub-thread, domain,
author, and possibly more. I believe Messenger Pro can do the same.
Killfiling by Subject line (which I assume is what you mean by "thread"
here) isn't the most effective option.

Don't other platforms have these facilities too?


Indeed. In fact, I once proposed to Tony (via email) that we should both
not reply to each others' newsgroup posts *at all*. He readily agreed,
and then broke the agreement a few hours (IIRC) later.

He then went on to argue that breaking the letter of the agreement was
fine so long as he didn't (in his mind) break the spirit of it. Or
somesuch nonsense.

I've also gone through trying to explain all this MAUG stuff to him via
email, slowly and (!) politely. Unfortunately, as we've seen elsewhere in
this thread, any such explanation turns in Tony's mind into "evidence" for
yet another *** against him.

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Post by dgs » Sat, 11 Oct 2003 04:11:32

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,



I'm afraid that doesn't surprise me. I imagine Don was less than happy
about the amount of unpleasantness that followed your presentation to
MAUG; as were quite a number of MAUG members.

Quite why you seem to think such behaviour was laudable or defensible, I
have absolutely no idea.


Don't try to twist my words. The suggestion that you could receive a
percentage of sales value of items sold at MAUG, was made in an email with
message id < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >.

I am entirely happy to repost that email here in full (including headers),
if Don Turnbull thinks it appropriate that I should do so.


Ah; I forgot that you spend a fair amount of time "helping" a wide variety
of people and companies with various things...

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Post by Paul F. Jo » Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:19:46

Hi,

By the process of poking various fingers onto keys dgs generated this:




The only unpleasantness that I know of was caused by (mainly) you on this
as you had had it in your head that Tony H was a truely unpleasant chap
and harped on and on and on about it. All the unpleasantness was down to
you.


Yes - why do you constantly do it?


It may have been a suggestion - as such, it was nothing. I had told Don
how it would work which he agreed. I can suggest that you're a totally
moral, clean living member of society - it doesn't mean that it is.


I doubt he would.


Sure do. I help quite a few people out, mostly by email, some by usenet.
I don't need (or have) to list names here and the insinuation that you're
putting forward is nothing more than I would expect from you - petty,
small minded and basically, not worth the bandwidth.

You are the weakest link.

TTFN

Paul

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Post by Paul F. Jo » Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:24:02

Hi,

By the process of poking various fingers onto keys dgs generated this:


Once upon a time, in Teletubbie Land, dgs decided to say something which
made sense....

Then it appeared on usenet

Now we can see why it made sense in Teletubbie land...

TTFN

Paul
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