Not zfc

Not zfc

Post by Terr » Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:03:45


With reference to two amazing, calamitous and undernoted e-mails :

Ladies first, I was always told; but it also makes sense to take the
more recent e-mail first, I suppose.....

The 'King Canute' comment, repeated again by Chris de Cordova, is
simply a totally abject surrender to the computer-illiterate, and
business-unfriendly, activities of Microsoft : in relation to their
ill-conceived e-mail software (Outlook etc.)

The comment in both e-mails, that recipients of (their) e-mails are
familiar only with top-posting, is merely a "special case" of reading
a communication from the top downwards (and left-to-right as we do in
The West)

Isn't it time that all your benighted 'recipients' were /shown/ a
/properly/ formatted e-mail, which they can get to grips with
perfectly easily - just by reading it?

Having done it once, they will have no further difficulty; and will
wonder why the "Real World" always gets it wrong, at the same time
being amazed at what can be achieved in the New Millennium by sensible
use of computers.

Go on, the both of you, you know it makes sense.
Stop sending one-shot 'memos' like I was doing Way Back in 1952.
(Typed in the Pool, of course)

P.S. It is quite beyond me why Newsgroups and mailing lists should be
considered special cases. They are text, to be read line-by-line,
vertically - like everything else.

[end of a possibly justifiable top-posting]
:o)

Oh, and thank you for your attached e-mails :-


In message < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >











--
__o Terry Mills Norwich - Up The Canaries!!
_`\<,_ XXXX@XXXXX.COM Clan 3444; Foundation 0037
(_)/*(_) Who needs Bill Gates? Iyonix 512
Phone: 01603-427900 http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by druc » Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:40:02


[Snip some well made points]


And completely ruined by totally uncessary top posting,

---druck

 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by Dr Peter Y » Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:03:39


[snip]



I've tried doing that on occasion, only to get a reply from some dumb
person, "I am unable to see your reply". Presumably they are unable to
scroll down. :-( Now if I do this to someone who I know is a Windows
user, I put at the top of the reply, "Replies interleaved below", but
this example is never followed.

I do get interleaved replies from just one person at the MS Society
National Centre, but she uses colouring to highlight her replies, so I
can only see them if I run the HTML attachment. This makes replying to
her replies a complicated process!

With best wishes,

Peter.

--
Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
Anne \/ __ __ \ England.
and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://www.yqcomputer.com/
family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ XXXX@XXXXX.COM
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by Dr Alan Le » Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:07:31

In message < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >









James Cook University Hospital has banned HTML and JPegs internally .
It has to be straight text and top posting.

Alan

--
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by Terr » Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:20:06

In message <h413e5$383$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >






Sorry, druck.
I guess it was a ham-fisted attempt to be subtle ;^)

It also helped me to calm down, and avoid writing 'directly' (and
abusively?) to the two colleagues I so very strongly disagreed with.

Keep up the Good Work,
Cheers,
Terry.

--
__o Terry Mills Norwich - Up The Canaries!!
_`\<,_ XXXX@XXXXX.COM Clan 3444; Foundation 0037
(_)/*(_) Who needs Bill Gates? Iyonix 512
Phone: 01603-427900 http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by Chris de C » Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:02:35

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,


Did I send you an email?

--
Chris de Cordova

Marathon runners with bad footwear suffer the agony of defeat.
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by Chris de C » Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:07:35

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,


The difficult they have is really apparent when one email is sent to
several people, forwarded to others, added to - both on top and at
the bottom with no snipping or interleaving, in case anyone is newly
added to the circulation ......

The one person who does it differently, who knows better, ie me, just
causes mass confusion - and everyone else in the circuit thinks they
are doing it correctly!

Very few people are 'csa* trained'! And no one who wasn't will be
receptive to being told to do it differently from everyone else they
know.

--
Chris de Cordova

When I'm not in my right mind, my left mind gets pretty crowded.
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by New » Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:46:20

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,



So how do they pass their X-rays/scans around? In plain text?

John

--
John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses!
Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject!
Who is John Williams? http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ://petit.four.free.fr/visitors/locate
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by Jeremy Nic » Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:55:42


How about as URLs (or euivalent) to a central location? Surely they should
all be stored on a central server anyway?

--
Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own.

Email sent to my from-address will be deleted. Instead, please reply
to XXXX@XXXXX.COM replacing "nnn" by "284".
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by Tim Hil » Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:55:11

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,
Jeremy Nicoll - news posts < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >






Yes, that's how the systems work that I've had a tiny hand in. Email is
not involved; a proprietary patient database delivers xray images to
networked workstations.

As for bigger scans, such as those produced by MRI, only recently DVDs of
images were being passed around because it was quicker to courier from
(e.g.) Bradford to London than to use slow internet connections. As
quicker connections appear, more couriers are looking for other work!
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by Terr » Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:23:20

In message < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >



TeeHee.
As you probably noticed (although druck didn't) my *article* was
written as a spoof e-mail, using Industry-Standard top-posting, with
all its (partly) redundant quotations 'under the fold'[1].

This followed the general drift : that top-posting has no[2] place in
properly written e-mails, as well as newsgroup articles etc.

[2] Fine for "Yes, I will be at that meeting. Thanks, Fred" or
"Sorry my reply is late : I have had Swine Flu" or
***URGENT*** ?


How very, very true =8-[
I get these all the time from my "mates" - almost invariably
containing the latest joke (of the most dubious character) passed
around a large group of dubious characters, including Yours Truly.

The fact that they have all been generated on Windows machines causes
me much extra work, using Good Old !Edit, in extracting a /few/ lines
of text (the joke) from several KB of downloaded superfluous rubbish.
(One reason I abandoned dial-up).

Whoopee!
That's just what we really need to hear.

It will not surprise you to know that I opt out from "passing the
parcel", so - if the joke is worth sending to members of my family -
they get it all cleaned-up (not Bowdlerised!) and sent in a fresh
e-mail from my Iyonix.

Certainly the (hopeless) case :(
I now feel that my accusation, of your capitulation to the nostrums of
the ignorant masses, was very wide of the mark.
As I said to druck : keep up the Good Work!

Cheers,
Terry.
[1] Thus I end at the "sig separator". In top-posting, my farewell
would be halfway up the page!!!

--
__o Terry Mills Norwich - Up The Canaries!!
_`\<,_ XXXX@XXXXX.COM Clan 3444; Foundation 0037
(_)/*(_) Who needs Bill Gates? Iyonix 512
Phone: 01603-427900 http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by Chris de C » Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:20:31

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,


[Snip]

all read and enjoyed!

--
Chris de Cordova

The man who fell into an upholstery machine is fully recovered.
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by Dr Alan Le » Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:29:57

In message < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >






Come on John I am talking about internal emails. XRays use another
system.

Alan



--
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by Dr Alan Le » Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:30:51

In message < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >










Absolutely spot on,

Alan

--
 
 
 

Not zfc

Post by Fred Bambr » Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:38:54

In message < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >
Jeremy Nicoll - news posts < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >





If they're anything like a certain Hampstead based hospital, the central
server is called 'waste basket'.

--
Fred