Wiring question

Wiring question

Post by Stuar » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:02:04


My daughter has just moved into a new house and I have to set up the
networking etc.

The telephone socket is downstairs by the window in the front room. The
computers are to be set up in the back bedroom and wireless networking is
not really an option for the RPC.

I propose to put a telephone extension in the back bedroom and set
everything up, including the router, there.

When buying the parts I was told that for broadband I should use a
"master" socket in the bedroom instead of an ordinary extension one and
only use connections 2 and 5.

This seems strange to me as my own set up uses a fully wired phone
extension socket (from the days of dial-up) and seems to work fine.

Any views on the matter?

Stuart
 
 
 

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Post by Martin Wyn » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:14:02

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Assuming that you do not require a phone in the back bedroom, the way
I would do it is to put the router by the existing master socket and
run a cat 5 cable to the back bedroom. Sorted :-) Or if wiring is an
issue use ethernet home plugs.

Martin.


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Post by New » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:22:32

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The master socket comprises a surge arrester across the line and an R/C
circuit which puts the ringing volts on a third wire minus the DC. So I'm
not quite clear how the supplier works out that adding a second R/C
network and supressor across the line would improve the broadband carrier.

These days few phones actually use the third wire - it was a BT quirk.

I could understand the theory of not having a master socket at all for
broadband - although I don't know if it would improve matters.


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Post by Brian Howl » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:32:09


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In my view, the best way to deal with this is to have the router in
the room where the computers are, and run CAT 5 cable with RJ11
connectors through from the router's DSL port to the microfilter,
which should be plugged in to the main telephone socket.

That way, you aren't relying on internal telephone wiring to carry the
last few metres of your signal. Telephone cable is much more
susceptible to interference than CAT 5.
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Post by New » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:43:47

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That's as maybe, but I've got 10 pair telephone cable (unscreened) running
all round the house carrying 5 balanced stereo audio circuits, and there's
no audible crosstalk or interference on them.

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Post by Jeremy Nic » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:53:53


- which have the huge advantage that you can unplug them and move them
around the house... I bought some not quite believing they'd work, but
they do.

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Post by charle » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 02:08:23

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That is the way my system is installed. It works well.

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Post by John Sandf » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 02:24:48

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Wireless networking with a RPC is easy with a wireless bridge. mostly
needs a PC to setup once, after that it just plugs into the bridge via
cat5e cable.

John

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Post by Stuar » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:07:26

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Unfortunately this was ruled out because of cost, especially with having
to buy a PCI wireless card for the desktop PC as well.

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Post by Stuar » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:14:30

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Having a large quantity of CAT5 cable available, this was the first option.
However, the place has been newly decorated and trying to find a way of
inconspicuously running two lengths of bright purple network cable was
something of an issue.

Running a single length of telephone cable round the outside of the
building, allowing the option of also putting a telephone in the room,
seemed more attractive

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Post by Stuar » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:17:01

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Me neither, hence the question here where more knowledgeable people "hang
out"

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Post by Chris John » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:23:37

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Yes, I do the same. I also found that, by putting the router at the
socket where the phone line enters the house, and using the ethernet
home plugs to feed to the computers at the other end of the house, I
gained over 1000 kbps in sync rate.

Chris...

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Post by Kevin Well » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:40:10

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[snip]



What I have is a wireless access point upstairs where the computers are
and the router downstairs by the telephone master socket.

The computers are plugged into a network switch box which is then
plugged into the wireless access point.

Both the Risc PC and the A9 both work with this set up.

Theireless access point is a Netgear WG602

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Post by Steve Frya » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:52:04


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Or better still, use a filtered faceplate on the master socket, and run the
CAT5[1] direct into that. It also simplifies any extensions, as they don't
require microfilters of their own (being connected to the filtered side of
the faceplate).

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1. Here, I've got three-pair phone wire (again from Clarity) which carries
the unfiltered A/B pair to the router and the filtered two-pair extension in
the same wire. I assume standard CAT5 would do just as well.

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Post by Chris Hugh » Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:21:52

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Goto the www.clarity.it website which has a number of guide and things
available to help you.

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Chris Hughes