Searching Google... was Free 32 bit lpr client?

Searching Google... was Free 32 bit lpr client?

Post by Chris Evan » Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:34:45


In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, Michael Gilbert





I was aware of those pages, which I would describe as a reference section
giving examples of specific commands, not general guidance of say what would
be an effective way to find a particular thing.
New users would be used to say yellow pages etc and looking in there and
on google requires different techniques.

I've tried coming up with some examples but google has been effective. I do
know that many occasional googlers tell me they can't google effectively.
So some better guidance should help many people.


I put TME in here, and you did not come in the top 40 (of 599,000)!, if you
restrict it to the UK then yes you come 1st in 27,000

You may be appearing 1st out of 599,000 because google has remembered you
have searched in the past and visited tme.co.uk.

I tried an experiment after finding tme 1/27,000 with a UK restriction, I
clicked on the 'cached' entry for tme.
I then went back to searching the whole world for tme and it came 3rd/599,000

I've just done another test to see if this is 'remembered' in the cookies
file, it is not!

I found this out when I couldn't believe we were number one in the world for
'hp 3822' the number one ranking out of 122,000 Google is still remembered for
over a year now and I have been careful never again to click on the 'cached'

This ranking snippet of info I would include in an 'advance help section'

Another google feature I have found: Our site is crawled by google most days
but when we upload a new copy of our products database it can take 2-3 weeks
for it to find all 1400 odd description pages, some days adding 200 to the
list it has found other days forgetting it's seen 50!

Chris Evans

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Searching Google... was Free 32 bit lpr client?

Post by Michael Gi » Sat, 23 Apr 2005 06:02:27

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, Chris Evans



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Doubt it. The first time I did it was on a machine I'd never used
before. SafeSearch is on, though, which may do something, although the
page count is 507k, so not much.

Cheers

Mike

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Searching Google... was Free 32 bit lpr client?

Post by Chris Evan » Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:42:15

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, Michael Gilbert




Interesting, just to clarify, you get tem 1st out of 507,000 without
ristricting the search to the UK?

Does anyone else?


Chris Evans

--
CJE Micro's / 4D 'RISC OS Specialists'
Telephone: 01903 523222 Fax: 01903 523679
XXXX@XXXXX.COM http://www.yqcomputer.com/
78 Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex, BN11 2EN
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Searching Google... was Free 32 bit lpr client?

Post by Theo Marke » Sun, 24 Apr 2005 00:50:01


For 'tme' I get (from cable.ntl.com):
Using Firefox' quick search on google.co.uk: first out of 607,000
(with 'Pages from UK')
Using Firefox' quick search on google.com: second out of 607,000
Using google.co.uk with 'Pages from UK': first out of 607,000
Using google.com.gr without only Greek/Greece pages: third out of 593,000

Picking a random machine in cam.ac.uk and going to google.com via Lynx
which I've not done before (and without restricting to UK):
first out of 607,000 (it redirects to google.co.uk)
Going to http://www.yqcomputer.com/ : second out of 607,000
(and it doesn't redirect to google.co.uk)

I think Google now knows which IPs are in .uk and redirects accesses to the
frontpage of google.com to google.co.uk. Telnetting to port 80 on
google.com I get:
HTTP/1.0 302 Found
Location: http://www.yqcomputer.com/ %3D:TM%3D1114184889:S%3DWxKhYrBQmjvlUqHV&prev=/
Set-Cookie: PREF=ID=48329ce22302e5c9:CR=1:TM=1114184889:LM=1114184889:S=KTMGIu9sX5H1JGrY;
expires=Sun, 17-Jan-2038 19:14:07 GMT; path=/; domain=.google.com

I don't have a shell account outside the UK or in an obscure domain to
verify this though.

Theo
 
 
 

Searching Google... was Free 32 bit lpr client?

Post by Kevin Well » Sun, 24 Apr 2005 01:35:14

In message < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >





Yes

With "TME" TME tme all had www.tme.co.uk as top search item.
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Searching Google... was Free 32 bit lpr client?

Post by Michael Gi » Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:26:00

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, Kevin Wells






Glad it's not just me. It was only an off the cuff remark, y'know, not
intended to start a thread. It does show, though, why three letter URLs
are worth money. As Chris found a few years ago, I think.

Cheers

Mike

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Searching Google... was Free 32 bit lpr client?

Post by Michael Gi » Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:32:24

In article <rok* XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, Theo Markettos



I've noticed this too. Even when the search is apparently "the web"
rather than "pages from the UK" there does seem to be a bias towards
.uk sites. On the other hand, changing the parameter to "UK" seems to
produce a different set.

Interesting what pops up in the "Similar pages" links. A mix of stuff I
either refer to or link to and other things I know nothing of.

Cheers

MIke

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