FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by pics222 » Wed, 07 Jul 2004 16:35:47


First Apple II DOS Disk - 3.1: VERY RARE! Item number: 5105986378

ENDS IN LESS THAN 48 HOURS - ON JULY 7
 
 
 

FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by a2 » Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:22:33

Hi!



Already at $51 which is too much for my wallet. I'll probably
offer the winner a few bucks for an e-mailed image of the disk.

Willi

 
 
 

FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by mjmaho » Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:10:37


And then it should get uploaded to a collection of all the Apple II
system software.

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FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by a2 » Thu, 15 Jul 2004 05:47:41

Hi!




My request to purchase a copy was refused.

Willi
 
 
 

FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by Bill Garbe » Thu, 15 Jul 2004 05:55:52


: Hi!
:



: > > Already at $51 which is too much for my wallet. I'll
probably
: > >offer the winner a few bucks for an e-mailed image of the
disk.
: >
: > And then it should get uploaded to a collection of all the
Apple II
: > system software.
:
: My request to purchase a copy was refused.
:
: Willi

Did they provide grounds for the refusal, or did
they simply refuse?

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FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by a2 » Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:02:48

Hi!



He wrote "I'd rather not.". That's a quote of the entire message
I received from him in response to my request to buy a copy.

He sells on eBay so I assume he fears that letting out a copy
would reduce the value of his purchase.

Willi
 
 
 

FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by Bill Garbe » Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:41:11


: Hi!
:


: > Did they provide grounds for the refusal, or did
: > they simply refuse?
:
: He wrote "I'd rather not.". That's a quote of the entire
message
: I received from him in response to my request to buy a copy.
:
: He sells on eBay so I assume he fears that letting out a
copy
: would reduce the value of his purchase.
:
: Willi

I think I might have seen an image of that disk
somewhere. If I come across it I'll let you know.

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FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by Mike Wille » Fri, 16 Jul 2004 02:14:54

How would one create an image of a 13 sector disk, without writing some new
software? As far as I can tell ADT only works with 16 sector disks. Other
applications would only copy files, not the disk image.

Just curious.
Mike Willegal
 
 
 

FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by a2 » Fri, 16 Jul 2004 07:13:51

Hi!



You are absolutely right that creating an image of a 13 sector
disk would be a problem. Completely forgot that anything before DOS
3.3 would be a 13 sector disk.

Willi
 
 
 

FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by Steven N. » Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:16:20


Not a problem if you have the original P5 PROM. There were also a bunch
of utilities which could handle them on a newer controller.
 
 
 

FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by Bill Garbe » Fri, 16 Jul 2004 12:41:57


: > Hi!
: >


: >
: >>How would one create an image of a 13 sector disk, without
writing some new
: >>software? As far as I can tell ADT only works with 16 sector
disks. Other
: >>applications would only copy files, not the disk image.
: >
: >
: > You are absolutely right that creating an image of
: > a 13 sector disk would be a problem. Completely
: > forgot that anything before DOS 3.3 would be a 13
: > sector disk.
:
: Not a problem if you have the original P5 PROM.
: There were also a bunch of utilities which could
: handle them on a newer controller.

They would be on the DOS 3.3 Master Disk.
Convert13, Start13 and Boot13. :o)

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FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by Mike Wille » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 02:50:30

see comment inline.










None of these would create a 13 sector disk image of a 3.1 Master Disk
suitable for email or other means of electronic transfer.
 
 
 

FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by mjmaho » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 03:54:36


But if that's what you need to do, having the P5 PROM doesn't
make it any less of a problem--so what's your point?

The "proper" way to address this, if anyone cared, is to create a
13-sector-capable ADT. I doubt that there is enough interest
in 13-sector disks to make this a viable option.

Barring that, a .nib image should do the job.

Another reasonable alternative would be to MUFFIN the files
to a 16-sector disk, make a conventional image, and then
someone who wants to make an original disk can DEMUFFIN
it. This is probably easier than the SST/.nib route.

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FA: First Apple II DOS Disk 3.1 on eBay

Post by mjmaho » Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:16:16

Paul R. Santa-Maria replied:



And it's readily available in MUFFIN. ;-)


There's the irony. I'm guessing that the old versions
of DOS are at least half the total payload...

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