Move group to user volume set..

Move group to user volume set..

Post by Kim Borgma » Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:55:26


So.... It has no data in it.... So no one can access anything...

What gives ?

GROUP: Y070331.ANTL

DISC SPACE: 14901312(SECTORS) PASSWORD: **
CPU TIME : 0(SECONDS) SECURITY--READ : AC
CONNECT TIME: 0(MINUTES) WRITE : AC
DISC LIMIT: UNLIMITED APPEND : AC
CPU LIMIT : UNLIMITED LOCK : AC
CONNECT LIMIT: UNLIMITED EXECUTE : AC
PRIV VOL : NO SAVE : AC
FILE UFID: $056C0002 $1A4C8E01 $000147D8 $34833093 $01DEBF34
MOUNT REF CNT: n/a
HOME VOL SET : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET
CAP: BA,IA
********************
GROUP: Y07EOY.ANTL

:altgroup y070331;homevs=user_volume_set
In use. Can't be purged. (CIERR 916)
:

Mr. Kim Borgman
NWS Inc.
Indianapolis, IN


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Move group to user volume set..

Post by Joshua Joh » Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:07:48

Kim,

***** SNIP ****
So.... It has no data in it.... So no one can access anything...

What gives ?

GROUP: Y070331.ANTL

DISC SPACE: 14901312(SECTORS) PASSWORD: **
CPU TIME : 0(SECONDS) SECURITY--READ : AC
CONNECT TIME: 0(MINUTES) WRITE : AC
DISC LIMIT: UNLIMITED APPEND : AC
CPU LIMIT : UNLIMITED LOCK : AC
CONNECT LIMIT: UNLIMITED EXECUTE : AC
PRIV VOL : NO SAVE : AC
FILE UFID: $056C0002 $1A4C8E01 $000147D8 $34833093 $01DEBF34
MOUNT REF CNT: n/a
HOME VOL SET : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET
CAP: BA,IA
********************
GROUP: Y07EOY.ANTL

:altgroup y070331;homevs=user_volume_set
In use. Can't be purged. (CIERR 916)
:
**** END ****

According to your listing it has 14901312 sectors in it. Checked for HFS
directories/files below the group. You could run FSCheck to see if there is
something wrong with the directory. If you are sure there is no data below
the group you could try purgegroup then newgroup to re-create the group. You
need to do it twice to get it on a private volume ONVS and HOMEVS options.

Josh

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Move group to user volume set..

Post by Bob Schlos » Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:08:35

Kim

Are you logged on in that group?

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Subject: [HP3000-L] Move group to user volume set..


So.... It has no data in it.... So no one can access anything...

What gives ?

GROUP: Y070331.ANTL

DISC SPACE: 14901312(SECTORS) PASSWORD: **
CPU TIME : 0(SECONDS) SECURITY--READ : AC
CONNECT TIME: 0(MINUTES) WRITE : AC
DISC LIMIT: UNLIMITED APPEND : AC
CPU LIMIT : UNLIMITED LOCK : AC
CONNECT LIMIT: UNLIMITED EXECUTE : AC
PRIV VOL : NO SAVE : AC
FILE UFID: $056C0002 $1A4C8E01 $000147D8 $34833093 $01DEBF34
MOUNT REF CNT: n/a
HOME VOL SET : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET
CAP: BA,IA
********************
GROUP: Y07EOY.ANTL

:altgroup y070331;homevs=user_volume_set
In use. Can't be purged. (CIERR 916)
:

Mr. Kim Borgman
NWS Inc.
Indianapolis, IN


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Move group to user volume set..

Post by Newton, Er » Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:09:06

Kim,

Perhaps you should change some, or all, of your security to "ANY".

Ernie

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Subject: [HP3000-L] Move group to user volume set..

So.... It has no data in it.... So no one can access anything...

What gives ?

GROUP: Y070331.ANTL

DISC SPACE: 14901312(SECTORS) PASSWORD: **
CPU TIME : 0(SECONDS) SECURITY--READ : AC
CONNECT TIME: 0(MINUTES) WRITE : AC
DISC LIMIT: UNLIMITED APPEND : AC
CPU LIMIT : UNLIMITED LOCK : AC
CONNECT LIMIT: UNLIMITED EXECUTE : AC
PRIV VOL : NO SAVE : AC
FILE UFID: $056C0002 $1A4C8E01 $000147D8 $34833093 $01DEBF34 MOUNT REF CNT: n/a HOME VOL SET : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET
CAP: BA,IA
********************
GROUP: Y07EOY.ANTL

:altgroup y070331;homevs=user_volume_set In use. Can't be purged. (CIERR 916)
:

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NWS Inc.
Indianapolis, IN


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Move group to user volume set..

Post by Kim Borgma » Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:14:19

Nope.....

Seems a can move about 1/2 of the ones I try....all have no data in them...

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Kim

Are you logged on in that group?

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Subject: [HP3000-L] Move group to user volume set..


So.... It has no data in it.... So no one can access anything...

What gives ?

GROUP: Y070331.ANTL

DISC SPACE: 14901312(SECTORS) PASSWORD: **
CPU TIME : 0(SECONDS) SECURITY--READ : AC
CONNECT TIME: 0(MINUTES) WRITE : AC
DISC LIMIT: UNLIMITED APPEND : AC
CPU LIMIT : UNLIMITED LOCK : AC
CONNECT LIMIT: UNLIMITED EXECUTE : AC
PRIV VOL : NO SAVE : AC
FILE UFID: $056C0002 $1A4C8E01 $000147D8 $34833093 $01DEBF34
MOUNT REF CNT: n/a
HOME VOL SET : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET
CAP: BA,IA
********************
GROUP: Y07EOY.ANTL

:altgroup y070331;homevs=user_volume_set In use. Can't be purged. (CIERR
916)
:

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NWS Inc.
Indianapolis, IN


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Move group to user volume set..

Post by Kim Borgma » Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:41:36

Move it to user volume set where I just added 2 additional drives....and
have over 50% free space....

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Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:08 PM
To: XXXX@XXXXX.COM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Move group to user volume set..

Kim,

***** SNIP ****
So.... It has no data in it.... So no one can access anything...

What gives ?

GROUP: Y070331.ANTL

DISC SPACE: 14901312(SECTORS) PASSWORD: **
CPU TIME : 0(SECONDS) SECURITY--READ : AC
CONNECT TIME: 0(MINUTES) WRITE : AC
DISC LIMIT: UNLIMITED APPEND : AC
CPU LIMIT : UNLIMITED LOCK : AC
CONNECT LIMIT: UNLIMITED EXECUTE : AC
PRIV VOL : NO SAVE : AC
FILE UFID: $056C0002 $1A4C8E01 $000147D8 $34833093 $01DEBF34
MOUNT REF CNT: n/a
HOME VOL SET : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET
CAP: BA,IA
********************
GROUP: Y07EOY.ANTL

:altgroup y070331;homevs=user_volume_set
In use. Can't be purged. (CIERR 916)
:
**** END ****

According to your listing it has 14901312 sectors in it. Checked for HFS
directories/files below the group. You could run FSCheck to see if there is
something wrong with the directory. If you are sure there is no data below
the group you could try purgegroup then newgroup to re-create the group. You
need to do it twice to get it on a private volume ONVS and HOMEVS options.

Josh

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Subject: [HP3000-L] Move group to user volume set..


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NWS Inc.
Indianapolis, IN


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Move group to user volume set..

Post by Matthew Pe » Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:47:44

Quoting Kim Borgman:

Move it to user volume set where I just added 2 additional drives....and
have over 50% free space....
----------
You cannot move files from one volume set to another, they must be copied or
stored (to disc or tape) and then restored to the new volume set.

If you have a good backup of the files you want to move, then use that to
restore them to the new destination volume set and then purge them from the
old. If you don't have a good backup of the files, make one and then do the
preceding.

You could of course do a STORE with the ;PURGE option that will store and
purge the files after they're successfully stored, but if your store medium
or file is bad you've just hosed your files unless you have another good
backup available.

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Move group to user volume set..

Post by Denys Beau » Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:26:07

I'm coming a little late to the party. I think it would be a good idea to
show a REPORT @.ANTL;onvs=mpexl_system_volume_set. You should also do a
REPORT @.ANTL;onvs=whatever other VS you have.

You need to see where this group may be declared. I have seen cases where
identical groups are declared on multiple volumesets, which makes them
inaccessible.

Someone pointed out there may be POSIX directories in the group and file
that, just do LISTFILE @.ANTL,2 and see what comes up.

Denys

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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Move group to user volume set..

Move it to user volume set where I just added 2 additional drives....and
have over 50% free space....

-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Johnson [mailto: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:08 PM
To: XXXX@XXXXX.COM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Move group to user volume set..

Kim,

***** SNIP ****
So.... It has no data in it.... So no one can access anything...

What gives ?

GROUP: Y070331.ANTL

DISC SPACE: 14901312(SECTORS) PASSWORD: **
CPU TIME : 0(SECONDS) SECURITY--READ : AC
CONNECT TIME: 0(MINUTES) WRITE : AC
DISC LIMIT: UNLIMITED APPEND : AC
CPU LIMIT : UNLIMITED LOCK : AC
CONNECT LIMIT: UNLIMITED EXECUTE : AC
PRIV VOL : NO SAVE : AC
FILE UFID: $056C0002 $1A4C8E01 $000147D8 $34833093 $01DEBF34
MOUNT REF CNT: n/a
HOME VOL SET : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET
CAP: BA,IA
********************
GROUP: Y07EOY.ANTL

:altgroup y070331;homevs=user_volume_set
In use. Can't be purged. (CIERR 916)
:
**** END ****

According to your listing it has 14901312 sectors in it. Checked for HFS
directories/files below the group. You could run FSCheck to see if there is
something wrong with the directory. If you are sure there is no data below
the group you could try purgegroup then newgroup to re-create the group. You
need to do it twice to get it on a private volume ONVS and HOMEVS options.

Josh

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Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:55 PM
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Subject: [HP3000-L] Move group to user volume set..


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NWS Inc.
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Move group to user volume set..

Post by Mark Ranf » Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:32:33

If I read this correctly, the files that you had in the group
disappeared when you changed the groups volume set. Is that
correct?

May I suggest that you try entering the following:

report Y070331.ANTL;onvs=mpexl_system_volume_set
and
report Y070331.ANTL;onvs=user_volume_set

I think you may have an orphaned group (forgive me Vlad if that is the
incorrect usage.)

There is always a system volume set group. Sometimes it is the only
one (as when there are no user volume sets on a system) and sometimes
it simply has a pointer to the real group entry in the user volume
set.

Mark Ranft
Pro 3K