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Post by yanquidaw » Tue, 09 Nov 2004 07:38:30


Thank you. That helps.
 
 
 

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Post by ginfes » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 05:39:33


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Post by Alla » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 06:11:28

> > You blithering idiots! You re-elected that imbecile George Bush as your

At least one American knows how to spell then, unlike this chap....

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Post by jakesnake6 » Sat, 13 Nov 2004 06:18:04

ou sound like an American Democrat: Pissing and moaning and criticizing,
but not a shred of constructive thinking. It's easy to point out what's
wrong, but you're totally bankrupt when it comes to positive ideas and
strategy. You can't think past the obvious. If you would consider the
issue more thoroughly, you would see that the American people had to make a
choice between two men. George Bush and John Kerry. Not great options, but
it's what we had to work with. Even if he's not a great leader, George Bush
at least represents strong will and an ability to make decisions that are
not politically popular. With all his faults - and there are many - he does
possess courage and a willingness to stand firm on issues. John Kerry, on
the other hand, would have been a tremendous gamble for America. If you
would take a moment to investigate his career, you would see a very obvious
pattern of waffling and flip-flopping in accordance to political currents.
A vote for John Kerry was rolling the dice, because he never laid out a
plan, or otherwise told America what to expect. His plan to "build
alliances" smelled like kissing the ass of the UN and asking for permission
to defend our national interest - NOT a good idea. "The World" couldn't
give a flying fuck about the security of America, and the UN has made it
very clear that America's interests are not their concern. I don't know
where you live, but if it's not the US then you have no appreciation for the
shockwaves of 9/11. Should we sit idly by and sniff the UN's ass instead of
taking control of our destiny? After this nation was struck on home soil, I
couldn't give a flying fuck what the world thinks of this nation. A lot of
the world thought 9/11 was what we deserved. Well, "the world" can kiss my
ass. I have three children that I want to see grow up safe and happy. I
wasn't about to vote for a man who couldn't stand up to Howard Dean or his
own consituents, much less arrogant pricks like you who think they know
what's best for this country, but who don't even have an appreciation for
our handicapped political system. I'm not a huge Bush supporter; I think he
has made many errors. But he is miles ahead of that pussy Kerry. He's the
absolute worst the Democrats could have put forward. Had the Democrats put
up a positive strategic thinker whose record showed some balls, I would have
considered voting Democratic. I share some ideals of that party. But Kerry
is a joke. And if you don't understand that, you haven't taken the time to
review his career. You'd rather just spew bullshit.

jakesnake




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Post by Nightwin » Sat, 13 Nov 2004 11:46:53

"jakesnake66" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message
news:gGQkd.10520$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...

You mean like Republicans, espically when there out of power (see the
Clinton years)

It's easy to point out what's

True, but those qualities are negated when one is WRONG on all the decisions
he's made. His choices on Iraq, Tax cuts, education
civil liberties, the enviroment have all cost this nation dearly...


With all his faults - and there are many - he does

That whole term was invented in the basement of FOX NEWS. Bush has Flip
Flopped on just as many issues. For example
Iraq at the UN, the Steel Tariffs, the 9/11 commision and others. I'd rather
have a politican admit he's wrong and change his mind than a politican who
refuses to admite he's wrong and remains stubborn -espically when that
arrogence is costing lives.



Obviously you didn't listen to the debates. Kerry talked about his plans for
the Deficiet, Social Security, Heathcare, jobs, and Iraq. All Bush could
come up with was how Kerry was too "liberal". I didn't hear Bush ONCE
mention any of those things. Its Bush that doesn't have a plan, other then
to enrich his friends at our expense.

but if it's not the US then you have no appreciation for the shockwaves of
9/11.

Do you think America was the only country to suffer terrorism? Where the
hell have you been? France (GIA), UK (IRA) Isreal (HAMAS, Islamic Jihad),
Spain (ETA) Greece (November 17) Indonisia (Jamal Islamia) and thats just a
few. Do you think that gives you the right to fuck over the rest of the
world because you suffered one attack? The French and English have been
fighting Islamic terror for the past 40 years. Russia has been fighting
Islamic radicals for 400 years. We (just like in WWI, WWII, Korea, and
Vietnam) have arrivied late for the war.


Should we sit idly by and sniff the UN's ass instead of


Clearly you've learned nothing. Its precisely that attitude (not giving a
fuck) that allowed 9/11 to occur, and you obviously have never visited the
world to know that our foreign policy attracts people to terrorist groups
like flies on shit. Do you think Osama (not Saddam) just decided to attack
us without provocation? When the US supports a government like the Saudis
(who oppresses its own people in a manner that would make Saddam blush) so
that US companies can take the Oil (of which the Saudi population who are in
poverty get absolutely nothing) don't you think that just might just piss
somebody off? If a bunch of Christian zealots keep dropping bombs on your
house in order to "free" you wouldn't you get angry too? BTW most people
didn't believe America got what it deserved. If you bothered to read the
news (other than FOX) you'll notice that there was mourning in places like
Iran and Libya. Yasser Arafat even donated blood. But you can always count
on the "liberal" media (aka the CONSERVATIVE media) not to report it.



I wasn't about to vote for a man who couldn't stand up to Howard Dean or
his

Here we agree. I prefered Dean to Kerry as well. But to call Kerry a pussy
is unfair. I don't think anyone who graduates Yale
to VOLENTEER for Vietnam and VOLENTEER for dangerous assignments is a pussy.
Espically when compared against a guy
(and Bush wasn't alone) who did everything they could NOT to fight.

I don't fault Bush for not wanting to go to Vietnam. But to send men into
battle on a bullshit r
 
 
 

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Post by Nightwin » Sat, 13 Nov 2004 11:46:53

"jakesnake66" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message
news:gGQkd.10520$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...

You mean like Republicans, espically when there out of power (see the
Clinton years)

It's easy to point out what's

True, but those qualities are negated when one is WRONG on all the decisions
he's made. His choices on Iraq, Tax cuts, education
civil liberties, the enviroment have all cost this nation dearly...


With all his faults - and there are many - he does

That whole term was invented in the basement of FOX NEWS. Bush has Flip
Flopped on just as many issues. For example
Iraq at the UN, the Steel Tariffs, the 9/11 commision and others. I'd rather
have a politican admit he's wrong and change his mind than a politican who
refuses to admite he's wrong and remains stubborn -espically when that
arrogence is costing lives.



Obviously you didn't listen to the debates. Kerry talked about his plans for
the Deficiet, Social Security, Heathcare, jobs, and Iraq. All Bush could
come up with was how Kerry was too "liberal". I didn't hear Bush ONCE
mention any of those things. Its Bush that doesn't have a plan, other then
to enrich his friends at our expense.

but if it's not the US then you have no appreciation for the shockwaves of
9/11.

Do you think America was the only country to suffer terrorism? Where the
hell have you been? France (GIA), UK (IRA) Isreal (HAMAS, Islamic Jihad),
Spain (ETA) Greece (November 17) Indonisia (Jamal Islamia) and thats just a
few. Do you think that gives you the right to fuck over the rest of the
world because you suffered one attack? The French and English have been
fighting Islamic terror for the past 40 years. Russia has been fighting
Islamic radicals for 400 years. We (just like in WWI, WWII, Korea, and
Vietnam) have arrivied late for the war.


Should we sit idly by and sniff the UN's ass instead of


Clearly you've learned nothing. Its precisely that attitude (not giving a
fuck) that allowed 9/11 to occur, and you obviously have never visited the
world to know that our foreign policy attracts people to terrorist groups
like flies on shit. Do you think Osama (not Saddam) just decided to attack
us without provocation? When the US supports a government like the Saudis
(who oppresses its own people in a manner that would make Saddam blush) so
that US companies can take the Oil (of which the Saudi population who are in
poverty get absolutely nothing) don't you think that just might just piss
somebody off? If a bunch of Christian zealots keep dropping bombs on your
house in order to "free" you wouldn't you get angry too? BTW most people
didn't believe America got what it deserved. If you bothered to read the
news (other than FOX) you'll notice that there was mourning in places like
Iran and Libya. Yasser Arafat even donated blood. But you can always count
on the "liberal" media (aka the CONSERVATIVE media) not to report it.



I wasn't about to vote for a man who couldn't stand up to Howard Dean or
his

Here we agree. I prefered Dean to Kerry as well. But to call Kerry a pussy
is unfair. I don't think anyone who graduates Yale
to VOLENTEER for Vietnam and VOLENTEER for dangerous assignments is a pussy.
Espically when compared against a guy
(and Bush wasn't alone) who did everything they could NOT to fight.

I don't fault Bush for not wanting to go to Vietnam. But to send men into
battle on a bullshit r
 
 
 

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Post by jakesnake6 » Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:13:53

"Nightwing" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message
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criticizing,

Okay, let's face it: Both parties do it.

make
are
decisions

You really should temper your judgements here, for a couple of reasons:
First, I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't actually mean
"all the decisions he's made," as it's an absurd comment, and I get the
impression that you are more intelligent than that. The man has made at
least some good choices, regardless of your political affiliation.
Furthermore, you are too time-bound. Historical perspective suggests that
the merit of political actions cannot be truly assessed until we (or others
after us) look back on how they fared in various eras and circumstances.
Look at FDR's New Deal and how some of those programs - and history's
judgements - morphed over time. One only need to understand the wild ride
of Social Security to understand that political decisions have a life of
their own that spans the era in which they were enacted through posterity.
You simply do not have enough consequential evidence to make the call. It's
certainly not inconceivable that events could turn such that Bush's
decisions regarding Iraq are validated. On the other hand, things might
happen that ruin his legacy. My point is that blanket judgements such as
yours are extreme and without any real merit.


on
currents.
rather

You're damaging your credibility here. While I don't disagree that Bush has
"flip-flopped," we're not even talking about the same thing. ALL political
careers will include waffling - it's the nature of the beast. And I, too,
prefer a leader who will admit errors and try to correct them. But, please,
don't pretend that Kerry's career isn't absolutely characterized by a marked
tendency to sway with the winds. Even Democratic pundits will admit this.
Here's a short list that's easily accessible on the internet, and it's 100%
researchable. This is not opinion - although conclusions regarding it
certainly are. I can validate nearly every item with quotes and votes. I
did my homework prior to the election, but I did not verify every single one
of them. The lesson to me is that we're not dealing with a judicious
individual attempting to see both sides of an argument and make an informed
decision. We're talking about a man who sought to straddle difficult issues
to preserve his life-long political career. I don't care if you despise
George Bush, it's irresponsible not to try to understand this aspect of who
John Kerry is.

Iraq war



Marriage penalty for middle class



Patriot act



Gulf war



Gay marriage



Attacking president during war



Death penalty for terrorists



No child left behind



Affirmative action



Ethanol



Sactions for cuba



Nafta



Double taxation dividends



Taxing during economic downturn



Small business income taxes



Gas tax



States rights on abortion



Litmus test judicial nominees



Federal health benefits



Tax credits for small business health



Health coverage



Welfare reform



Stock options expensing



Medical marijuana



Sanctions for burma



Military experience / public office



PACs



Personal funds for campaigns



Isreal security fence



Ballistic missile defense



1991 iraq war coalition



Funding for troops in iraq