Itanium experts- Building Itanium 1 systems from old parts

Itanium experts- Building Itanium 1 systems from old parts

Post by Matt Simi » Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:04:24


Hi,

Id like to build an old Itanium 1 system. Ive seen cheap Itanium 1 CPUs
floating around, usually from (then) CPQ or HP servers, supplied with what
appears to be VRM and heatsinks (no fans).

The problem is, of course, sourcing motherboards to put these into. Im
looking into perhaps salvaging an old Dell Precision 730 motherboard, but
since these CPUs explicitly state "Compaq CPU upgrade" (or similar), Im
wondering if Dell, CPQ and the rest use standard mountings (like the way P4s
have a standard socket and heatsink mount) or each have different OEM
variants?

Any other suggestions on where to find Itanium 1 motherboards welcome.



Matt



PS: Is there the best newsgroup to post this?
PPS: Im already familar with Itanium 1's performance!? :p
 
 
 

Itanium experts- Building Itanium 1 systems from old parts

Post by Alex Johns » Sat, 20 Dec 2003 03:30:08


Fortunately for you, all the OEMs didn't feel like pouring money into
developing Itanium 1 systems and boards after intel told them it would
release an incompatible and far superior Itanium 2 12 months later. So
all the Itanium boards (except HP) were 100% intel manufactured, and
thus identical. HP probably designed their own, knowing the HP systems
folks.

This is the best newsgroup I can think of for this topic.

I was going to adopt some Itanium servers my group was retiring (to the
dumpster). Unfortunately they were the insane rack mount versions, not
the workstations. About 150 pounds each and require 2 20 Amp lines for
power. For each 4P system!

Alex
--
My words are my own. They represent no other; they belong to no other.
Don't read anything into them or you may be required to compensate me
for violation of copyright. (I do not speak for my employer.)

 
 
 

Itanium experts- Building Itanium 1 systems from old parts

Post by Matt Simi » Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:49:44


> Fortunately for you, all the OEMs didn't feel like pouring money into
Good stuff thanks. You didnt happen to salvage any of the parts from the
dumped Itaniums did you? :)
Btw, just to confirm, when you say incompatible you are referring to HW
wise, software wise IA64 is IA64 right?


Matt
 
 
 

Itanium experts- Building Itanium 1 systems from old parts

Post by Alex Johns » Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:32:21


No, I did not salvage any of the parts (and they haven't gotten rid of
them yet either...that happens in 2.5 months). Don't even ask if I can
grab something for you, the deal was I could take them only to be used
personally by me.

I did mean hardware wise that Itanium 2 is incompatible with Itanium.
The two systems, in fact all systems, are fully backward compatible for
software. There might be forward compatibility issues down the line,
but then you can't run Pentium optimized code on a 486, either. But
keep in mind, optimize code for Merced because if you optimize for
McKinley the timing differences could produce slower code on your system
by causing resource contention. McKinley has more execution units.

Alex
--
My words are my own. They represent no other; they belong to no other.
Don't read anything into them or you may be required to compensate me
for violation of copyright. (I do not speak for my employer.)
 
 
 

Itanium experts- Building Itanium 1 systems from old parts

Post by Rick Jone » Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:06:31


It was always my understanding that the rx4610 (1-4 CPU Itanium1
server) was an Intel designed motherboard and the i2000 (1-2 CPU
workstation IIRC) was also. Various large feline names come to mind
for the system codenames.

rick jones
--
Wisdom Teeth are impacted, people are affected by the effects of events.
these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :)
feel free to post, OR email to raj in cup.hp.com but NOT BOTH...
 
 
 

Itanium experts- Building Itanium 1 systems from old parts

Post by Matt Simi » Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:41:31


Thanks for the help guys. Ive heard back from my contact that Dell didnt
release an Itanium system in my region (Europe), so thats screwed up that
plan somewhat. Anyone got any idea on another source for an old Itanium
motherboard?


Matt