can a failing motherboard kill a hard drive?

can a failing motherboard kill a hard drive?

Post by number65 » Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:30:43


My system has been killing hard drives for a few months now. I thought
it might be a failing power supply so i replaced the existing 350watt
with 450watt, moved the computer to a grounded outlet (found out it
wasn't before), and added a surge protector in before my UPS.

Even with all these changes, my computer just recently killed my C
drive. I went to turn on the computer and it just froze after the
bios. A little drive swapping showed me that the drive contents seem
to be intact, but that the drive just won't boot for some reason.

Could a failing mother board be killing my hard drives? Before this
latest victim, i've lost at least one other boot drive & 2 other
additional storage drives. Syntoms have been everything from files
becoming corrupt on the drive, to the drive not appearing in the bios
alltogether.

Ever since the first drive death i've been monitoring the case
temperature and been constantly scanning for viruses. If it's not the
motherboard then i think it's time to call some preists and
medicine-men to de-curse my system.

Here's the system specs:
Motherboard - Intel D845GEBV2
Ramm - 512mb
OS - Windows XP
Drives Killed - Segate 60gb, Western Digital 120gb, Western Digital
160gb, Maxtor 80gb

Please Help..

thanks.
 
 
 

can a failing motherboard kill a hard drive?

Post by Mistoffole » Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:38:50


Explain "killed". That is, do these hard drives work with other computers?
Do these HD's spin up when powered on? Tested them with other systems?

The statement that "...drive swapping showed me that the drive contents
seem to be intact, but that the drive just won't boot..." points to another
source of the problem, specifically a failing or low CMOS battery. The
other symptoms, namely not appearing in the bios and file corruption can
also be attributed to loss of computer information due to a problem with
the CMOS battery.

 
 
 

can a failing motherboard kill a hard drive?

Post by Ken » Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:00:31

On 19 Nov 2003 23:30:43 -0800, XXXX@XXXXX.COM (number657)



Could be a bad IDE cable.
 
 
 

can a failing motherboard kill a hard drive?

Post by number65 » Sat, 22 Nov 2003 05:20:00

Hmm.. A failing CMOS battery could corrupt a hard drive? Would i be
able to see the problem if i take a volt meter to the battery?

There are various ways hard drives have been "killed" by this system.
As i said, the latest death seemed only to affect the drive's ability
to boot. Placing the drive in as a secondary i was able to access it
and read all my files.

On another drive death, the drive (160gb secondary storage drive)
started to randomly loose directories which contained 2-5 gb of files.

On another boot drive death, the drive wouldn't boot until i
reinstalled windows. After the re-install, the drive would work fine
until i powered down. Upon restarting, once again the drive wouldn't
boot until i reinstalled windows.

I only tried one of the dead drives on a different system once, but it
seemed to display the exact behavior i was seeing on my system.

I know someone with the same case & motherboard as i, so i'll see
about getting a volt meter rating on each of our cmos batteries to
look for a difference.

Thanks.
 
 
 

can a failing motherboard kill a hard drive?

Post by David Schw » Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:08:11


It's not clear that the hard drive is actually corrupted in any way.


Doesn't that suggest to you that the problem isn't the drive?

DS
 
 
 

can a failing motherboard kill a hard drive?

Post by w_to » Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:01:25


Your failures have symptoms of a boot sector corruption.
Nothing more than something overwriting the first sectors of
the first side of the first cylinder. What writes to the boot
sector? Setting up an OS and virus are typical suspects.

Simple to verify a battery using a multimeter. Simply
measure battery voltage. For example if 3 volt battery is
even 2.5 volts, then battery has failed. But first know what
battery voltage is suppose to be - not just measure a
potentially defective battery in another's computer. Also to
affect the disk drive, battery must be so weak that BIOS
changes.

Are disk drives damaged? That is why good manufacturers
provide diagnostics - for free. What did your computer
manufacturer's diagnostics (that are provided free) say? And
if it was not a good computer manufacturer, then what did the
free diagnostics from the disk drive manufacturer say?
Currently you don't even know if the IDE cable is
intermittent. Currently you keep having the same problem
because you keep trying to fix things rather than first
collect facts - learn why the problem is happening.
 
 
 

can a failing motherboard kill a hard drive?

Post by Stephen Le » Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:46:18

According to number657 < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >:

May be bad RAM? Try getting "memtest86" and test your system.

That, or a bad IDE cable could corrupt data written to the disks, and make
them show the symptoms you wrote about.

Try making a large .zip file, copy it to and from the drive a few times,
then test unzipping it to see if it is still intact. Alternative do a file
compare with a known good copy.

Stephen
 
 
 

can a failing motherboard kill a hard drive?

Post by Eric Gisi » Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:56:14

There is obviously a data corruption problem, which could be many things.

Start by replacing the 80-pin cable, move it from primary to secondary IDE.

Do the dead drives show up in manufactures diagnostics? Try them alone on both
40&80 pin cables.

If nothing helps, replace the mainboard.
 
 
 

can a failing motherboard kill a hard drive?

Post by Telconta » Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:12:33


Now I am suspecting the G denotes you are using the Onboard video, but,
take a look at this interesting bit of information. If you have tuned
the system for performance following several sites recommendations, this
may be a contributing factor:

http://www.yqcomputer.com/

So, have you tuned it to system cache?