Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Post by Stew » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:19:12


Can anybody suggest a Mac newsreader that doesn't suck?
I've tried:

-Newswatcher
-Hogwasher
-Unison
-Macsoup

Blunderbird doesn't count since it sucks on all platforms.

Anything that compares to the ease of use, configurability, and
functionality of say Pan or Knode?

TIA
 
 
 

Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Post by Sandma » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:34:19

In article <ka_Of.16790$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,




MTNW

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Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Post by Lloyd Pars » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:40:50

In article <ka_Of.16790$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,



See there is that 'opinion' thing at work again. I think Pan and Pknode
reek and prefer MT-Newswatcher.
 
 
 

Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Post by TheLetter » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 05:11:07


I've used most of the popular *nix newsreaders (pan, knode, slrn,
MT-newswatcher, and several others), and sill end up going back to
Thunderbird. Could you please explain why it's specifically bad? It
seems solid enough, even if the filtering isn't as robust as it could be.



--
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Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Post by TheLetter » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 05:11:58


Not that MT-Newswatcher is a '*nix' newsreader, but you get the idea.



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Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Post by Stew » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 05:47:05


Newswatcher is a mess of overlapping windows. It about the most inelegant
newsreader I've ever used. Hogwasher isn't bad but, I'm not paying fifty
bucks for a newsreader that *almost* has all the functionality of the free
Linux ones. MacSoup? Yeah, maybe if 8 year olds had an interest in reading
usenet. Unison? Maybe if I spent all my time leeching *** .

Why is Thunderbird bad? Same reason Outhouse is bad. They are email clients
with newsreading thrown in as an after thought. Awful article management
and filtering, slow when dealing with large groups, inelegant.
 
 
 

Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Post by Duke Robil » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:24:13


Well, you could use Pan or Knode :-)

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Post by Donald L M » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:26:32

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:19:12 -0800, Stew wrote
(in article <ka_Of.16790$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >):


Sorry, friend. You've tried the most popular OS X newsreaders already.
Among them, I prefer Hogwasher for text downloads, and Unison for binary
downloads. Both of them must be licensed (Hogwasher is $49 and Unison is
$29).

MacSoup is nothing but a waste of disk space. It was the worst of all I
tried (and I have tried EVERY OS X usenet app I could possibly find,
including Pan). However, I have not tried any console-based newsreaders,
such as tin or slrn. But I doubt that I will, since I don't like
console-based apps.

Pan is ok, but still needs more development. It seems to be always in a
perpetual state of "beta". I also don't like having to install X11, and then
a package manager such as Fink or DarwinPorts before it can be installed.

I used to use Agent when my platform was Wintel.
However, it appears that Forte has no desire to develop Agent for OS X or
Apple.

The best overall newsreader for OS X I've found to be Hogwasher 4.2.2.
Sorry, friend.

Please don't waste anymore time trying to find a decent newsreader for OS X.
There just isn't one. PERIOD!

Now, a few Mac faithful will poo-poo everything I have said. But apparently
they have never used a Windows newsreader before, so have no idea what a
"decent" newsreader is, anyway.

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Post by Donald L M » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:30:47

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:11:07 -0800, TheLetterK wrote
(in article <pE0Pf.10$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >):



Using the words "filter" and "Thunderbird" together in one sentence is an
oxymoron. That is the exact reason many do not use Thunderbird as a
newsreader: Because it's "filtering isn't as robust as it could be".





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Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Post by Stew » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:33:27


Ahh! I thank you very much, fine sir!
 
 
 

Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Post by Lefty Bigf » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:47:58

TheLetterK wrote
(in article <pE0Pf.10$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >):




IMNSHO, it works too much like a clone of Outhouse Express. As
if we need another one of those.



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Post by Lefty Bigf » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:52:01

Donald L McDaniel wrote
(in article
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM >):


Correct.


Supposedly Hogwasher is being rewritten from scratch, and along
with that will come UB support and a lot of new stuff. No firm
date that I have heard for it though.


You're right. Both Linux/UNIX and Windows have better overall
NNTP clients than the Mac. That said, Hogwasher is plenty good,
and miles ahead of that abomination known as newswatcher. The
*only* reason you could use for supporting that piece of *** is
that it is free.


--
Lefty
All of God's creatures have a place..........
.........right next to the potatoes and gravy.
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Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Post by TheLetter » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:38:20


But it's the best of the Mac newsreaders, if you dislike Thunderbird.

Personally, I prefer the way Thunderbird manages articles to how Pan
does--Knode too, for that matter. Filtering is certainly weak (though
certainly effective enough for most people), but most newsreaders have
some problem or another. 'Good Enough' is a good term to use for
Thunderbird. It's not particularly good at anything, but neither does it
exhibit any severe flaws.


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"There is nothing I understand." - Shit
 
 
 

Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Post by TheLetter » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:40:19


Do you really need to be able to filter by more than 'from' and
'subject'? Note that I use the word need, not want. I'll be the first to
admit that Thunderbird has, at best, average message filtering--but is
it particularly *bad* message filtering? Is the implementation
specifically poor?



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"There is nothing I understand." - Shit
 
 
 

Suggestions on Mac newsreaders that don't suck

Post by Stew » Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:18:52


Except that it leaks memory like an old chevy leaks oil... especially the
windows version.