DLL errors: The hardware, the hardware, it's ALWAYS the hardware...

DLL errors: The hardware, the hardware, it's ALWAYS the hardware...

Post by zolo » Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:09:58


As John stated in the DLL Hell thread:

"Really? How many of those links are cases of "DLL Hell'? Thats where
a program replaces an existing Windows DLL with its version. All these
are a bunch of links where a DLL is missing or corrupted. Its a pretty
safe bet that 10.3 also will suffer from missing or corrupted files due
to disk problems. As evidenced by the frequent need to trash certain
programs preference files."

This is the age-old "cheap unreliable hardware" argument that John
always runs back to when cornered about Windows' shortcomings.

Isn't it interesting that whenever Mac advocates bring up Apple's
unique ability to integrate high-quality hardware and software, the
Winidiots always blast Apple for not selling cheap commodity hardware?
Yet whenever Windows has a problem, the Winidiots always seem to blame
it on "cheap hardware." Some Winidiot always loudly trumpets the fact
that "you can get PC system X down at Fry's for $499," but whenever
Windows *** s up, the excuse is "well, what do you expect from a bargain
ba *** t PC?"

You can't have it both ways, kids. Either cheap hardware is a
benefit, or it's a curse. It's been proven that Apple's high end
machines (Dual G5s) have a significant price/performance advantage over
dual Xeon systems, yet Wintel lovers like to whine about how expensive
Macs are. If you combine this with the fact that you apparently need
high end hardware to get Windows to work properly, then it seems to me
that the Winidiot's "Macs are so expensive" argument is a straw man at best.

-zolo
 
 
 

DLL errors: The hardware, the hardware, it's ALWAYS the hardware...

Post by John » Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:24:38


Isn't it interesting how you cannot read and understand simple concepts.
There is no more "DLL Hell" in Win XP. Logic is incorporated to insure
one DLL does not overwrite another and thus break Windows or other
applications. All computers and ALL OSs have problems with files being
deleted or becoming corrupt. That is what ALL of those DLL links pertai
ned to. No "DLL Hell" as it used to be known before it became a thing
of the past in Win XP.

 
 
 

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Post by Gary Kerch » Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:56:07


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Sounds like a "duct tape" fix to me. But hey, Longhorn is right around the
corner and will undoubtedly be bulletproof out of the box. *wink*
 
 
 

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Post by zolo » Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:20:42


Isn't it interesting that you've COMPLETELY missed my point. I
didn't even disagree with you about DLL Hell, merely pointed out your
predilection for blaming hardware.

-zolo
 
 
 

DLL errors: The hardware, the hardware, it's ALWAYS the hardware...

Post by Snit » Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:54:39

John" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote on 11/20/03 6:24 PM:


Then why does MS say that XP "helps to address the 'DLL hell' problem"? [1]

Why does MS have a whole set of support for DLL problems in XP, such as:

Ole32.dll May Cause an Error Message in Windows XP [2]
Error loading dll, scsint.dll [3]
Bhodisp0.dll or Bhodisp.dll Cause an Error Message in Windows XP [4]
Mso.dll Error Signature When You Start Word [5]

Plus at least 20 more just in MS's knowledge base

Add to that reports from others:
Outlook XP (2002) Crashes with a .dll Error [6]
Pstprx.dll error [7]
xvid.dll Error [8]
rim_hh.dll error in xp [9]

And the many many others you can find in few minutes of searching.

It is clear that XP has not eliminated DLL Hell. Reduced, perhaps, but far
from eliminated.

Before we go further, is this just some game you are playing to make a point
about some Mac supporters "error"? If so, I do not get it. Do you *really*
believe XP has eliminated DLL problems?

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[1] http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/features.asp
[2] http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314409
[3] http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810879
[4] http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318064
[5] http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;323219
[6] http://8help.ohio-state.edu/34978.html
[7] http://mmmservices.web.cern.ch/mmmservices/Faq/contents/0_0_pstprx.asp
[8] http://
www-tcsn.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/WinXP/Q_20793208.html
[9] http://
www.blackberry.net/developers/forum/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=1099


 
 
 

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Post by Kevi » Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:02:48


Even supposing this statement was true, it does not simply become "a thing
of the past" because Windows XP is not the version of Windows that everyone
is running.
 
 
 

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Post by Woofber » Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:08:39

In article <bpjrci$1oblj0$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,





It will be interesting to see if this new OS will run W32s applications.

--
Woofbert, Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
Woofbert's Law on Learning Linux: When attempting to learn Linux,
study it thoroughly before you begin.
 
 
 

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Post by zurg » Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:15:02

In article <bpjrci$1oblj0$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, Gary



HUH?!?!? Garsh! Then what the @#$%* am I doing with this Macintosh in
front of me?!?!?! Dammit! Dammit! Longhorn, the pinnacle of mankind's
search of the perfect operating system, is coming out so soon and I'm
on a Mac? What, do I have my head up my ass or something?!?!?
 
 
 

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Post by StormDrai » Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:04:11

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,






In the past I'd say it _has_ to run win32 apps since the customer base
already uses those. But since many customers are paying ransom I mean a
subscription to MS the normal updatebot could just install whatever MS
deems good. I'm sure IT depts would be happy with 1000+ systems being
updatebotted.
 
 
 

DLL errors: The hardware, the hardware, it's ALWAYS the hardware...

Post by Snit » Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:39:31

"StormDrain" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote on 11/21/03 10:04 AM:






May be why MS bought Virtual PC. Run the new OS and then have a virtual old
OS. Hmmm, sounds like how Apple is using Classic. Then again, MS may come
up with their own solution (i.e. buy another idea)
 
 
 

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Post by Woofber » Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:28:32

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >,







If it runs W32s applications correctly, then it has to faithfully
implement DLL Hell.

--
Woofbert, Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
Woofbert's Law on Learning Linux: When attempting to learn Linux,
study it thoroughly before you begin.